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Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318953] Tue, 07 May 2013 23:22 Go to next message
Shanga

 
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Yea, this time I am not talking about what THEY should do, it's time we discuss in private (between us and the Internet, nobody's watching) what we can do to help.

Pitch 5 ideas, no matter how wild they sound. We'll go through them later, right now it's only brainstorming. No debates until I say so, please.

Here's what's going through my mind atm:


  • 1. Some sort of separate donations campaign that would go as a Bear's Pit unified pledge (I do plan to have a personal pledge as many here do). CONS: The whole donation is retarded and full of red tape, Paypal in particular and most crowdfunding sites are actually a frontend for Paypal. Ideas?
  • 2. Our own "Make a KS campaign for JA:F" internal friendly competition, like the funny stuff posted by Grim here.With an open invite for FC to steal ideas.
  • 3. A decent MEME set, including avatars, forum sigs, posters, banners, chocolate underwear and whatnot featuring THE BEAR. Preferably sitting on the hamster. Or biting his head off. Your call.
  • 4. A friendly competition "Design The Evil Shanga" story. Write a short background story and a minimum of 5 lines. I'll up my pledge with $1 for any good story written (my initial pledge is $25). Yea, it's subjective but it's my money, not yours.
  • 5. And finally another competition, this time for backers, called "I'll up my pledge if...". You are allowed to enter any possible event with a definite outcome due until May 23. Example: "I'll up my pledge with $X if Bayern wins UCL" (doesn't work since the final is on 25th May, but you get the idea).


In addition to the above, we'll go through a small redesign process in support of the campaign, do our news stuff, etc, the stuff we usually.


Your ideas now please. 5 of them.

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318966] Wed, 08 May 2013 00:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CaRNi4

 
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- I made a template for a forum post people can use on forums they visit. Will update it tomorrow with new updates and images.
Toggle Spoiler

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tcvtcgks926afap/JAF%20Kickstarter%20Forum%20Post.txt

- I think we also need a thread people can post forum topics about the kickstarter that people have started, so other people can reply bump them from time to time.

- Also a separate thread for tweets about jagged alliance so people can retweet and fav those. And a list of popular related hashtags people can use like #jaggedalliance #oldschoolgaming #TurnBasedFTW.

- Same for Facebook stuff.

Of maybe just combine that into one thread.

- Would be nice if we could reach a Youtuber like TB, JesseCox, AngryJoe or someone similar. But I think we need some video for that, or maybe the can interview someone from FC.(or BP Wink )
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318969] Wed, 08 May 2013 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R@S

 
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I'm currently scripting a few new missions for BSM, maybe someone would like a part in one of those? Or maybe as a new merc or something? I know it's not really Jagged Alliance, but it's what I can offer.
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318983] Wed, 08 May 2013 04:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gdalf

 
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Only have one idea but I can actually do it:

I've already pledged the tier I really want, but would be happy to donate more. Unfortunately the next few tiers don't interest me so another idea I had was this: I'll create a new KS account, pledged to the $220 tier. Contest runs at Bear's Pit (and I'll use that account to mention it in KS) and you must have a screenshot of your backer pledge PM'd to me: Submit your enemy one-liner and Merc one-liner that you would want to get into the game. 48 hours before KS run ends, Shanga, R@S and DepressivesBrot pick their 'winner' and send them to me. I'll pick the final winner from the three (or bow to majority if two pick the same guy) before the final 24 hours (so that there's some publicity push), and the winner gets the keys to the account to collect their pledge rewards from FC if it gets funded.

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318990] Wed, 08 May 2013 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JAFTeam

 
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A bit weird if I write here. The Codex supported some Kickstarters with own raised funds to get their stuff into the game. How about raising funds for a "Bear" Soldier Wink
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318991] Wed, 08 May 2013 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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A bit weird if I write here. The Codex supported some Kickstarters with own raised funds to get their stuff into the game. How about raising funds for a "Bear" Soldier Wink


KS only accepts US and UK residents. Not the case here. That's why I said I needed feedback on other similar tools. So far the only international crowdfunding platform I've found is Indiegogo.com

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318992] Wed, 08 May 2013 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JAFTeam

 
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I know. That's why they made a paypal campaign for that.
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318993] Wed, 08 May 2013 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
derek

 
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What about gamespot? Has only one sentence about JAF.

And http://www.jaggedallianceflashback.com could use some update.



And somebody mentioned russians on KS yestrday or day before... What abuth their forums and such? They really dig JA2 and F2 games (Metalheart, Planet Alcatraz, 7.62...).
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318994] Wed, 08 May 2013 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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What about gamespot? Has only one sentence about JAF.

And http://www.jaggedallianceflashback.com could use some update.



And somebody mentioned russians on KS yestrday or day before... What abuth their forums and such? They really dig JA2 and F2 games (Metalheart, Planet Alcatraz, 7.62...).


[color:#CC0000]This topic is about what US can do to help the campaign. Pitch 5 ideas of what you can do to help. For general suggestions directed at FC, use the old topic.[/color]


Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318995] Wed, 08 May 2013 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peal

 
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  • Making an fan video, playing the emotional card of the inverted pyramid of power. Instead of Evil Publisher, the fans are making this game.
  • FC makes an video with the Space Hulk Engine and Models but explains how that could be transioning into JAF. (Physics, Effects, Sounds, Animation, Level of Detail)
  • Interview with Chris Camfield, R@S and Depri. Video or Text, basically get more content out of those three.
  • Announce more Modder to the team, make an quick video about the modding scene of JA2 and how this is important for FC. An announcement in an KS update does not mobilize the casual like an emotionally we are together and happy video.
  • Show footage from bear-fighting, bear-sex, bear-mud-wrestling and bears on motorcycles, blend in names from the Pit with the music from TerminatorII Smile
Shanga
[color:#CC0000]This topic is about what US can do to help the campaign.[/color]

Sorry I messed up, I mixed in stuff FC could do.

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318996] Wed, 08 May 2013 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
derek

 
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OK...

1. guys from BP that are russians or "similar" (I apologies in front... we from former yougoslavia are all the same to the rest of the world so...) spread the word there

2. WE can spread the word better on gamespot (and such big portals by opening some topic and show what JAF is and where is going)

3. (since many JA2 fans are also F1, F2 and FT fans) http://www.nma-fallout.com is a good play to try WE can do this)

4. will FC let community to help update http://www.jaggedallianceflashback.com? WE can also do that

5. sorry, nothing jet...


p.s. 2, 3 and 4 needs someone who has good "admin" skills and such (unfortunately not me)

[color:#FF0000]Shanga: Red color is reserved for administrator messages and warnings.[/color]

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #318999] Wed, 08 May 2013 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peal

 
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  • Reach out to famous youtuber and streamer, like Total Biscuit. Ask them to help this campaign by spreading the word.
  • Make an own KS campaign for stretched goals we could deliver by modding, like more maps and weapons. Or an official JAF 1.13 project. (If this is legal)
  • Get a 2nd job and spend the money to the JAF KS campaign
  • Make an KS campaign to fund an proper marketing campaign for JAF

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319000] Wed, 08 May 2013 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
derek

 
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There are a lot of forums around the world
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319001] Wed, 08 May 2013 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gdalf

 
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A bit weird if I write here. The Codex supported some Kickstarters with own raised funds to get their stuff into the game. How about raising funds for a "Bear" Soldier Wink
I'd pledge to this. Or run a contest. But not both so let me know if you decide to do this (and if we have time?) because I like this idea better than mine. Otherwise I'll open a contest the day Bear Pit's support is announced on KS.

(Shanga: I hope I have your permission to run this here, and also yours, R@S and Depres agreement to be judges)
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319005] Wed, 08 May 2013 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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gdalf - sure you can run, but if we sort out donations maybe we can go for a higher item with everyone chipping in.

I'll talk to lockie, he's in UK and he might be able to help us with KS. Actually KS is out of the question entirely cause of this:

Quote:
Kickstarter cannot be used to fund software projects not run by the developers themselves.


Guess Paypal is our last chance or what you originally proposed.

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319007] Wed, 08 May 2013 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gdalf

 
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http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/o4zwm.jpg

All set

Edit: Argh I was backer #3499 n00b mistake

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319009] Wed, 08 May 2013 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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I wonder if it wouldn't be easier (for us) to have FC make a special "Put Bearpit in JA" tier, somewhere in the $30-$50 range, with 100 something slots. Don't know exactly in what form, I am oscilating between NPC, merc and a newspaper (depends on FC, really).

Instead of bashing our heads against the wall to figure out a financial solution, paying extra taxes to switch the money over, the BP members could simply pledge for that.

The best it would be if this would be an "extra" to current pledges, like them hamsters group.

@JAFTeam - is this doable? If it's possible get us the details on exactly in what form and for what costs, please.


Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319010] Wed, 08 May 2013 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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gdalf

All set
Edit: Argh I was backer #3499 n00b mistake


I'll make you a special topic for this.

Here it is:

http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/319012.html#Post319012

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319011] Wed, 08 May 2013 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JP'TR

 
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Some OTHER Artworks to see more paralells to JA2 at the first view at the kickstarter page:
(As a first easy step)

-A classic gameplay impression, with the squad of 6 mercs on the bottom, where you can see eqipped weapons, and maybe vests, helmets and glases on the faces.
On the screen, a choosen merc, and the isometric movementbox with the classic footsteps on the ground.

-A better Map Artwork, the showed island looks extrem little, and for people who not know its just an pre-artwork could think its planed to be that little, with the form of a pipe.

-They should show a little artwork for the inventory system, the merc pocket system, even if its just an "idea", its allways good to see it will be there.

At all just more to SEE (not read) that they want to keep close to the old style, what i hope for.
Ofc from an editor would be better, but this is something what could be handled in a short time.

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319036] Wed, 08 May 2013 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Loki7285

 
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1. Create on our own Mercs with story/pic etc. to show something graphical. FC can use it or not, but only text is just sad. They could be added in mods if nobody wants them used in the full game.

2. Talk to FC and make a special pledge that gives sth. special just to the Bear pit? Create one sector or sth. like that.

3. Make a podcast or sth. in which fans talk about JA2/JA/Flashback - like a talkshow

4. Youtube video with predictions etc. (something like everyone does for The walking dead)

5. sell your houses, cars and pay all you can Very Happy
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319041] Wed, 08 May 2013 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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1. Create on our own Mercs with story/pic etc. to show something graphical. FC can use it or not, but only text is just sad. They could be added in mods if nobody wants them used in the full game.


If I may draw everyone's attention to the new JA:F forum we've created EXACTLY for such things.
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php/forums/84/1/JA_F_Mercenary_HQ.html

Quote:

2. Talk to FC and make a special pledge that gives sth. special just to the Bear pit? Create one sector or sth. like that.


We might have an announcement about this later tonight.


Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319043] Wed, 08 May 2013 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Loki7285

 
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Well i could make a story and background for a merc, but i need somebody to make the pic
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319044] Wed, 08 May 2013 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:
I wonder if it wouldn't be easier (for us) to have FC make a special "Put Bearpit in JA" tier, somewhere in the $30-$50 range, with 100 something slots. Don't know exactly in what form, I am oscilating between NPC, merc and a newspaper (depends on FC, really).

Instead of bashing our heads against the wall to figure out a financial solution, paying extra taxes to switch the money over, the BP members could simply pledge for that.


For me , this is the best answer


Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319045] Wed, 08 May 2013 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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Well i could make a story and background for a merc, but i need somebody to make the pic


Well, how about using an actor's face for now? Or you could use the Merc Face Generator tool we have discovered recently:

http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/314754/Bringing_the_sexy_back.html#Post314754


Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319053] Wed, 08 May 2013 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oasis789

 
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1. Spread the word on other gaming-related forums, preferably those you are active in to avoid the appearance of spamming. Don't just post one line or link, embed the kickstarter campaign videos/images and have a short summary paragraph of what JAF is about.

Some of the larger ones like penny arcade, something awful have huge active userbases. There are also TBS game forums for XCOM:EU, Xenonauts, UFO series, Silent Storm/Hammer and Sickle, Disgaea, Fire emblem, Valkyria chronicles...

2. Spread the word on news aggregators like Reddit, Slashdot. You can post links yourself, or more importantly, upvote relevant posts that someone else has posted. Use the search bar or click on related discussions to see that.

Remember though, that visibility is not just about upvotes, its also about recency. Long ago posts will never be visible on the front page of high turnover subreddits. You might want to find new content and post that.

3. Contact gaming press/media to cover the campaign and interview the devs. Email, facebook, twitter, there are many ways to reach individual journalists directly. Be polite!

----

Honestly though there's only so much the community can do by itself. FC has to pull its own weight on the publicity front, by creating engaging content that people want to read/see/click on, and making a compelling case for the game. Otherwise we are only sending eyeballs towards a bad impression.



Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319116] Thu, 09 May 2013 04:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CaRNi4

 
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I'm gonna pitch the Kickstarter 1 on 1 to pretty much all my Steam Friends, see if any bite. Might be a good idea for everyone to do.
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319122] Thu, 09 May 2013 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
derek

 
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@ Shanga

since you are papa bear here, this is for you (I think it's worth a shot)


http://www.gamespot.com/forums/board/909105086/gamespot-unionsteamsguild-recruitment
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29300855/updates-to-teamguild-recruitment-


Please read it before shit on me!
It's about recruting guild on gamespot (finding other possible fans and a chance to advertise JAF KS campaign without getting moderated or getting thread locked).
You're "The Voice" here, so you shoul do it in BP style.


Hope you'll do it and that it will give a crop (or something like that).
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319123] Thu, 09 May 2013 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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@ Shanga
since you are papa bear here, this is for you (I think it's worth a shot)

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/board/909105086/gamespot-unionsteamsguild-recruitment
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29300855/updates-to-teamguild-recruitment-

Please read it before shit on me!
It's about recruting guild on gamespot (finding other possible fans and a chance to advertise JAF KS campaign without getting moderated or getting thread locked).
You're "The Voice" here, so you shoul do it in BP style.
Hope you'll do it and that it will give a crop (or something like that).


That's not bad at all, but I need to research it more. Not sure a new empty forum (which is basically what they're offering) is worth the time and effort, but I'll see what's all this about.


Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319124] Thu, 09 May 2013 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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I've contacted one the best and funniest Youtube JA2 reviewers I've ever seen, BoxMcLeod, and he has promised to help as much as he can. If you have time, check out this MASSIVE Youtube channel dedicated to JA2UC that's been featured at JAG as "Fuzzbutt's Epic Journey thru Danubia: Let's Play JA2UC":

zwwRTEIS1rY[/video]

All playlists here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/BoxMacLeod?feature=watch

It takes a lot of charisma and a very nice voice to do Youtube vids and this guy can certainly do a nice review of JA:F or the KS drive, if he has the materials he needs. And I am pretty sure he won't mind. If you have any ideas, pitch them here.


Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319125] Thu, 09 May 2013 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
derek

 
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great :ok:


ok... allready contacted some admins on gamespot (that's how I got that info) and contacted some game portals in may country and some forums (probably not much help - we are small and there's not big gaming community, except those new action RPG fans Sad)

saw that somebody allready made some small post on nma-fallout forum... needs backup there.


we should try to raise founding not just through KS and PIT... make a limude stand for JAF or something (something more serious but you know what I mean) and then pledge that on KS.



BIA made too much bad input outhere, as far as I could find put... and that's a bitch!


Don't hnow how danish people are but... FC can do a barbeque or something to raise some money?!

p.s. I know - it's not completly on topic
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319126] Thu, 09 May 2013 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
derek

 
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p.p.s. How is USSR and former countries standing? As I said, they are big fans of tactical games (Bridge E5 and many OF mods...).
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319130] Thu, 09 May 2013 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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p.p.s. How is USSR and former countries standing? As I said, they are big fans of tactical games (Bridge E5 and many OF mods...).


From the reactions I saw on the RU forum when JAFteam posted there, most people are polite and happy the devs payed them a visit. Of course, there are some that hate the story (USSR being the big bad bear), but the majority are intelligent people and hardcore fans.


Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319131] Thu, 09 May 2013 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R@S

 
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p.p.s. How is USSR and former countries standing? As I said, they are big fans of tactical games (Bridge E5 and many OF mods...).
Many of them got turned off by the first pitch from FC, and they are also wary after how badly BiA turned out. And you can't just get their support by words, you need to prove yourself by action to gain their respect. You might have noticed how they work in silence on many of their great mods, then they release it and amaze us with their awesome ingenuity. That's the Russian way, at least IMHO Smile

And you're right, they love tactical games, as I do, and if FC would put some weight in that department I'm sure some of them would show a little more interest in this Kickstarter.
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319132] Thu, 09 May 2013 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
derek

 
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Yes I know that about them and their mods.

Maybe try to lurk them towards us... show them how can they be a part of JAF through BP?
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319140] Thu, 09 May 2013 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pambam

 
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Hi,

I worked on my idea for a flyer and will present it to you in 2 versions:

  • DE (language German)
  • EN (language English)
I send it to Full Control and they liked it - disclaimer should be sufficient. Thx shanga, I took your disclaimer from the 220$ contest as a basis.

The idea behind this is the following:
People who are gamers do not always know what crowd funding is and which platform is the one to go. This flyer pitches only an idea and should create some initiative. People who know the JA franchise will remember the logo and look at it.

The flyer has no bleed and is meant for self-printing. You can also go to your local photo store and let them develop (10 min.) a small poster in photo quality which would look more awesome. As a JA veteran you could also use your wire cutter to cut the white border off :welder:

If you like it and you are in a community, university and wherever you see a bill-board / black board - nail it.

Download DE and EN version here

PS: How can we promote this idea more prominent, own thread? @admins: Can you do something here, any idea?

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319141] Thu, 09 May 2013 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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Look quite nice. But...

But this bit is too compact and hard to read:

Quote:

Full Control signed license
agreement for Jagged Alliance:
Jagged Alliance Flashback on
Kickstarter


Also there are a couple of minor changes I'd do (it's up to you, ofc):
  • I'd add a bit more "boom" to the message... some headline saying "NEW JAGGED ALLIANCE GAME COMING! NOW ON KICKSTARTER!" or something at the top.
  • Move the (?) below and add maybe another line of extra info (we can think of more vital stuff to put there, maybe something about Camfield and modders)
  • And in the middle i would enlarge the Humble Bundle pack and clear the white background so it looks nicer.

Overall the graphics are cool, but it suffers from the same problem as the KS page... doesn't say the important stuff I need to hear to go pledge. Thumbs up for the effort, though.

Once you have the final version done we can surely put it up the Portal page for download.

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Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319142] Thu, 09 May 2013 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shadow21

 
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found typos in the english version:

"What does crowd funding mean?

Crowd funding is a method fo to finanance finance pojects projects from a large group of supporters
over the internet."
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319143] Thu, 09 May 2013 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
derek

 
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Although new update is on KS I think campaign needs something stronger and different...

Don't want to be a bad guy here but... less JA2 and more JAF (in any way possible).
This needs to attract other people, not just JA2 fans and those familiar to turn-based tactics. Not many of "us" out there and much of "us" "forget" about JA2 or cross it over after BIA.

Short video (max 1min) with Camfield announcing JAF good be great. Still thing that gamespot should be covered (but form FC also) and official JAF page updated.


This KS needs something dynamic and exciting - have no idea what jet but... that's what it needs.



Less JA2 and more about what will be unique and great in JAF. Just one big thought covered by concept art and vid (less txt and talk).

p.s. wish I could think of something and help... We need to get out of the box.
Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319145] Thu, 09 May 2013 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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Dunno if Camfield's contract allows him to show his face promoting other game companies. The man has vouched his name and expertise, more than that might be frowned upon by his current employers. It's really up to him (plus him being onboard might get more of the former Sirtechies to join).

There's still a lot of video material they can get out there.

I've already suggested one with Javier or who is doing the diorama (video of him working on it with a voice over).
Also a video of the team while they're working on Space Hulk, with 15 seconds of introduction from each of them ("Hi folks, I am X and I'll be doing Y on JA:F)... That sort of stuff.

Thing is atm Space Hulk is the real make-or-break deal for them. They can't afford to fuxor that up, as much as we'd like them all to work on JA:F. So until pre-production is over and they actually start coding JA:F, there little ingame stuff we're going to see. Can't blame them for that, really.

With a bit more stuff like they had in update 12 and 13, with a bit of reshuffle of the pledge tiers and our help, they can do this.


Re: Pitch 5 ideas on how to help JA:F finish off KS campaign in style[message #319148] Thu, 09 May 2013 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
derek

 
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Yeah I know what SH is for them...

And I still think this can happen (after all I was bitching all the time about the need to support them and not doing it andstuff).



Well then... show some more progress on SH and tactical view of it and than "shift it" towards JAF and this campaign.


And making smaller tiers a little buffed up is good idea - as you sugested.




p.s. Still think the some news on gamespot will make a huge deal.
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