The Bears Pit: Politics Pit

Home » CHIT-CHAT » Politics Pit » Real or fake?

Show: Today's Messages :: Polls :: Message Navigator

Real or fake?[message #347711]

Fri, 09 December 2016 18:44

Deleted.

Messages:2657
Registered:December 2012
Location: Russian Federation

Found this picture showing mosque placements in Germany.
Is it real or fake?

Left this community.

Report message to a moderator

Lieutenant

Re: Real or fake?[message #347712 is a reply to message #347711]

Fri, 09 December 2016 19:23

DepressivesBrot

Messages:3653
Registered:July 2009

It is at least plausible and consistent with both other maps and the policies regarding foreign workers in the 70s/80s - i.e. the west mostly drawing from Turkey and SW-Europe and the east from places like Kuba and Vietnam.

Chat with us!
#bearpit on IRC
Discord
Get your latest 1.13 Builds
(Pls don't use my forum PMs for general game queries)

Report message to a moderator

Captain

Re: Real or fake?[message #347713 is a reply to message #347712]

Fri, 09 December 2016 19:43

Deleted.

Messages:2657
Registered:December 2012
Location: Russian Federation

@DepressivesBrot
I understand why this could be in 1980x, but nearly 30 years have passed - why nothing was changed?
In Russia, thousands of mosques and churches were built after 1991 everywhere, and I think muslim migration to Germany did not end in 1990, or maybe they don't want to live in eastern Germany for economical or some other reasons.

Left this community.

Report message to a moderator

Lieutenant

Re: Real or fake?[message #347715 is a reply to message #347713]

Fri, 09 December 2016 21:05

DepressivesBrot

Messages:3653
Registered:July 2009

Yep, last point's pretty much it. The east is still catching up economically so they stay/new ones go to the established communities.

Chat with us!
#bearpit on IRC
Discord
Get your latest 1.13 Builds
(Pls don't use my forum PMs for general game queries)

Report message to a moderator

Captain

Re: Real or fake?[message #347717 is a reply to message #347715]

Sat, 10 December 2016 11:15

silversurfer

Messages:2791
Registered:May 2009

Russia is different I presume. You probably have muslim communities all over the country. You also have different laws and conditions than Germany.

As a muslim immigrant where would you settle? In an area where there are almost no other muslims? In an area where people are still paid less for the same work? In an area where there are still much less jobs (especially well paid jobs for high qualifications)? You'd probably go to the other part of the country just like lots of Germans from the eastern parts did/do. I don't expect that to change for quite some time because people simply have to make a living and they expect it to be better in the west. That's also the main reason in my opinion why so many (economic) refugees want to get to Germany, Austria, France, GB or the Nordic countries.

Wildfire Maps Mod 6.07 on SVN: https://ja2svn.mooo.com/source/ja2/branches/Wanne/JA2%201.13%20Wildfire%206.06%20-%20Maps%20MOD

Report message to a moderator

Lieutenant

Re: Real or fake?[message #347719 is a reply to message #347717]

Sat, 10 December 2016 11:39

Enneagon

Messages:51
Registered:July 2016
Location: Latvia

Seems plausible.
Given it, I guess, comes from russian source, it might as well be exaggerated, but not necessarily is. With historacal and economic forces at work this sounds legit.

Report message to a moderator

Corporal

Re: Real or fake?[message #347720 is a reply to message #347719]

Sat, 10 December 2016 12:59

Deleted.

Messages:2657
Registered:December 2012
Location: Russian Federation

@all Thank you, it was interesting reading!

@Enneagon Maybe you are right, I don't know the exact source of this map (that's why I'm asking if it's real), but other sources show similar picture:
https://www.moscheesuche.de/moschee/stadt/Berlin/8858

@silversurfer
It's hard to compare because in Russia labour migration is seasonal - they come to work in summer and go home in winter, and there's less work and much less money than in Europe and it's too cold for people from south to live here :-)
I haven't seen similar pictures for Russia but I belive most new built mosques (since 1991) will be in traditional muslim regions but also in Moscow because of similar economical reasons.

Left this community.

Report message to a moderator

Lieutenant

Previous Topic:

PROOF!!..governments are retarded

Goto Forum:

-=] Back to Top [=-

Current Time: Sun Dec 08 01:57:26 GMT+2 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.01774 seconds