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Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35551] Sat, 19 February 2005 03:52 Go to next message
Acklebar is currently offline Acklebar
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Can any of the editors bring KIA mercs back to life (the ones on the AIM screen)?

TIA

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35552] Thu, 03 March 2005 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Omega is currently offline Omega

 
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Welcome to the forums.

Once I used JAPE to try and bring back maddog, put his health to normal but it didn't work, it could work for aim members though.

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35553] Thu, 03 March 2005 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To resurrect A.I.M. members killed "in the Philippines" or whatnot, I have found that if you reload a save from before you get the e-mail notification and leave a message with the merc's voice mail, they don't get killed. Another reason to save early and save often.

-- Mal

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35554] Tue, 08 March 2005 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm also currently looking for a way to resurrect dead mercs, namely Fox who's been killed in Philippines. I'm trying that 8000+ savegame (with UC) where Fox is deceased right from the beginning and so reloading is not an option. Tried JAPE, didn't work. I could edit stats and all but I guess there's somewhere 'deceased' -status saved in the savegame or something which needs to be altered before she can be rehired. I'm curious if there's a way to bring her back. However, I did spend over an hour looking for an editor or a cheat to do that but found nothing useful.

Damn you Weapon X for letting Fox die.. DAMN YOU!! Very Happy

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35555] Tue, 08 March 2005 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by Enemy of the bowine:
I'm also currently looking for a way to resurrect dead mercs, namely Fox who's been killed in Philippines. I'm trying that 8000+ savegame (with UC) where Fox is deceased right from the beginning and so reloading is not an option. Tried JAPE, didn't work. I could edit stats and all but I guess there's somewhere 'deceased' -status saved in the savegame or something which needs to be altered before she can be rehired. I'm curious if there's a way to bring her back. However, I did spend over an hour looking for an editor or a cheat to do that but found nothing useful.

Damn you Weapon X for letting Fox die.. DAMN YOU!! Very Happy
I am studying the code now - there is a file called AimHist.edt in BINARYDATA folder - which may have the information about KIA mercs - will have to check - perhaps I can make a binary editor which can change settings in this file (and wherever else this bit of history information is stored). Will keep you updated Very Happy

PS: even I am interested in bringing Foxy back to life Smile

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35556] Tue, 08 March 2005 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cool!

I tell you.. if you pull this off I'll name my possible future children as 'Zango', every single one of 'em! Very Happy . Best luck to your efforts.

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35557] Wed, 09 March 2005 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay - an update - have figured out - i will have to make the change in the save file - cannot change the memory due to lack of windows programming knowledge (i guess a lot of editors directly edit current program running image in memory). The program stores the merc information in a global structure called gMercProfiles. If someone has saved game editors - and can provide me the source code - will be great Smile

PS: e.o.t.bowine this is in progress - not sure how i feel about having your kids bear my nick as their name - i guess they wont be pleased for sure Razz - but hopefully i should be able to do it - and then it is for you to keep your promise Wink

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35558] Wed, 09 March 2005 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok.. I won't name my kids after you if you wish so. Maybe Very Happy .

Sourcecode can be found for example from here:
http://ja2mods.de/downscript/index.php

Check the 'JA2 Other Stuff' -section, just click the 'JA2 sourcecode' link, next click the 'Zum Download...' or something and download should begin (4615 KB).

JAPE032 is a savegame editor (not sure if there are any others), but I don't know what good it will do for you... Also found from the link above. I think there's source for that too.

Oh.. and that JAPE requires old MS Java Virtual Machine, so if you have any newer java, like Sun Java, it won't work. I saw a link here somewhere for that older MS Virtual Machine (try search with 'jape' or 'jape032'). Installer file name should be msjavx86.exe, installing requires restart.

Edit: Aa.. here's the link for that MS Virtual Machine:
http://www.saigoninfo.com/msjavx86.exe

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35559] Wed, 09 March 2005 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the jape code is just the thing - thank you Very Happy

await a release this weekend (hopefully Wink ) (yeah - tis gonna take time - whenever i can find time btwn work)

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35560] Wed, 09 March 2005 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh... oh.

Sry, I misread a little your earlier post... (by 'source' I thought you meant JA2 source.. I should've read more carefully). Good thing I mentioned JAPE's source too Very Happy . And hey.. take all the time you need, no point in rushing.

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35561] Fri, 11 March 2005 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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okay - made changes to jape code - to load merc status - i am not sure if my changes worked Very Happy - my net is broken at home - so cannot download my save game at home Sad - but can upload it here - and eot-b - perhaps you can check out the save game?

wont release jape with my changes (i did a hack job - i dont know java - so - not in shape for a release) (maybe work on it a little more later)

let me know your email id. will email you the game.

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35562] Fri, 11 March 2005 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mail below (created it for this purpose only Very Happy ), I'll test it when I have time. Thanks & good work (in advance) Very Happy .

creutzfeld123@yahoo.com

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35563] Mon, 14 March 2005 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sorry for not posting the savegame yet - it did not work - i changed something else in the file Smile - haven't found the correct offset - (if you have seen ja2 source -and understand c, i did a sizeof on the structure to determine the offset for the merc status field - it did not give me the correct result - however).

so - now i am rewriting the save game editor in C, so that i understand what i am doing - and it becomes easier to hack it Very Happy

will post an update soon
later!

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35564] Tue, 15 March 2005 02:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by Enemy of the bowine:
Mail below (created it for this purpose only Very Happy ), I'll test it when I have time. Thanks & good work (in advance) Very Happy .

creutzfeld123@yahoo.com
Hey,

I have got the saves ready and have sent them to you.

please do test it - i hope you remember your promise Very Happy

Cheers!

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35565] Tue, 15 March 2005 03:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The changes work - Foxy is alive Very Happy

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35566] Tue, 15 March 2005 05:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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She's alive! SHE'S ALIVE!!! AAHHAHAHA!! Fox cheated death! Hurray! :ok:

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35567] Tue, 15 March 2005 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by Enemy of the bowine:
She's alive! SHE'S ALIVE!!! AAHHAHAHA!! Fox cheated death! Hurray! :cheers:

I also tested it briefly and Fox is indeed alive!! Hahahaa. Tested it on UC (installed over JA2 Gold). She'll make perfect pair with IMP when they start strolling through Danubia, just 2 of 'em (we'll see how long they last..).

Nice work!

I hope you don't mind if I won't name my future kids after you But instead, I will start a new religion, you being the center of its worshippings. How do you like being a cult figure? Or a god, for that matter ? "The zangoism was founded early 21st century..." ,that's what'll read in the future history books Very Happy . How do ya like that, huh? Very Happy

Only the AIM email death notification remains there but that shouldn't pose any problemos. Although I wonder if Fox should die (again) will there come identical notification or what? Still, I'm optimistic about this.

Once more... Good work, Zango!
Hehe - now i insist - you must name your kids zango. Ah well - guess i will let you off - this one time

Cheers for Foxy! hope you have fun with her in Danubia - make her bend over as much as you can Wink

zangoism - hehe - lets see some followers before we begin to preach Very Happy

About the email - i cud get rid of that (it is in the save game) but will take a lot more effort - i am just too lazy to do that - the email can stay - it isn't going to affect the status of the game - yea - you will get another email if foxy dies in the phillipines again

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35568] Tue, 15 March 2005 20:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Zango,

sounds great to have "phillipined" mercs back for hire. Maybe others are interested in this too. So might there be any chance you'd make your editor available to the public?

You might gather lots 'n' lots of followers to your newly invented "zangoism" that way

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35569] Tue, 15 March 2005 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it is a (very) crude hack i did with jape - i really dont know java - i just put stuff in - where i thought it would logically fit in - and made it work.
The result - though not completely out of whack - is still something that could be made better (like provide a drop down list box to select what status (dead/alive/away on assignment) you wish to assign - right now it just shows the code for the "Merc is dead" or "merc is away on assignment" or "merc is returning" etc (which is a numeric value ranging from -9 to some positive value i dont remember right now) - which is not at all intuitive).

yet, i could think of releasing it in its current form. or i could complete the C code i was writing yesterday - which i used to hack Jape Smile then i could give you a command line interface. let us see. (please wait for a couple of days - am busy with work atm - so can't do anything right now - unless you *WANT* the hack-job I did with JAPE).

As for zangoism - Wink i see the movement picking up already Very Happy

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35570] Thu, 17 March 2005 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Damn!

Ran into problems today...

"ERROR in loading the game!"

This occurred after I took C5 (Port Kip, 'Tony'-sector). I can quickload (also C5, tb-mode) but normal game saving function seems to be broken (hmm.. realtime-mode). Meaning I can't load any game saved in C5, excluding quicksave, haven't tried other sectors yet after running into this. Game loading status bar goes all the way the red bar but stops after approx. 25% when blue bar is loading, then: "ERROR in loading the game!". Looks like the game finally got pissed about Fox being alive? Very Happy Don't know... dammit,dammit,dammit!

I'm no programmer but I'm still gonna experiment more on this.

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35571] Thu, 17 March 2005 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think I know the problem, not 100% sure though. Maybe it's not the Fox-hack but the fact that there are at least 3 civilians standing in water. Yes, standing over deep water when they should be swimming or drowning (what a bunch o Jesus-wannabes...). I used GABBI-cheat to check their locations.

I remember one time the game crashed when I was escorting Skyrider in unmodded JA2 Gold. I had to take long route and entered Drassen SAM-site from north, placed IMP & Skyrider to NW corner (there's small amount of water there). After sector loaded, I gave them instantly order to move west (exit sector) ---> game crashed.

So all I can figure out it's those civilians playing Jesus causing the problems. (there are no animations for civilians standing properly in water or swimming, are there...?)

Edit: I'm still wondering why the game didn't develop any problems during all those quicksaves & quickloads during the firefight...

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35572] Thu, 17 March 2005 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hmm interesting
what would be interesting to know - if fox died when WeaponX was visiting San Mona to place our enemies there? That could be one thing associated with the sector's history which causes the game to freak out Very Happy
i will have to check the history log etc. but not sure if i will be able to figure this one out - can you send me your save game back so that i may take a look?

(you could try with the other version - if you are playing even harder version - go to the other version - and try with that in the same sector - you may use cheats to reach here - if it still crashes - then it surely has to do with Foxy being resurrected - oh damn - ah well - maybe that can also be fixed Wink ).

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35573] Thu, 17 March 2005 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i went through the code - i don't think the sector holds any such information about dead-mercs - so it shouldn't be the reason for this lockup to happen.
i will take a look at it once i have your save file Smile

Cheers

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35574] Thu, 17 March 2005 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well... I resolved the problem (=problem resolved itself). I think. I went one sector east -> did some saving and loading -> all OK -> went back to C5 -> some more saving and loading -> all OK.

You still want those problem-savegames, zango?

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35575] Thu, 17 March 2005 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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would be good to have them Smile - that way i can ensure that it is not a bug caused by Fox - just some glitch as you described it to be.

better be safe than sorry Razz heh Wink

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35576] Thu, 17 March 2005 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You have mail Very Happy

I sent them to email from where you sent the "FoxHacked" savegames.

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35577] Thu, 17 March 2005 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Enemy of the bowine,
thank you- will check tonight.

Cheers!

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35578] Fri, 18 March 2005 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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okay guys - am taking a break from ja2 - will be visiting this forum - but for the time being - ja2 has been un-installed. Very Happy
let's see how long this haitus lasts

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35579] Mon, 04 April 2005 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Zango any way of emailing that hacked jape over?

emails in my profile or post for that matter

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35580] Wed, 06 April 2005 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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send me a pm - or create a new email id and post it here - will send jape (with instructions) to you.

Cheers!

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35581] Fri, 27 May 2005 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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zango, is this project still alive. I hope it is???? Any progress reports or updates to report?

Seabee

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35582] Fri, 27 May 2005 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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seabee,

i thot there was no one interested..
i have the hack which is easy (okay - somewhat complicated) to use - if you really want it, send me your email id.

Cheers! Smile

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35583] Sat, 28 May 2005 03:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am interested in the hacked JAPE also.

Could you please mail it to catspam2@yahoo.ca

Thanks

CatSpam

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35584] Wed, 01 June 2005 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am interested in how to bring dead mercs back to life.

If anyone has a copy of this hacked version of JAPE, I would appreciate getting a copy.

Please e-mail it to me at catspam2@yahoo.ca

Thanks,

CatSpam

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35585] Wed, 01 June 2005 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by CatSpam:
I am interested in how to bring dead mercs back to life.

If anyone has a copy of this hacked version of JAPE, I would appreciate getting a copy.

Please e-mail it to me at catspam2@yahoo.ca

Thanks,

CatSpam
I Am currently not in my country(India) - and the code is lying on my machine at my office. I can send this modified version to you once I am able to access the machine (I will also have to compile a list of instructions on how to work with the hack.) I will send the file as soon as i have it Smile

take care Smile

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35586] Mon, 06 June 2005 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes I am also interested in this. Just have to find the time to setup an email account that I can post here.

Seabee

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35587] Tue, 07 June 2005 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Zango,

Thanks for the response. I will patiently look forward to receiving the hack.


CatSpam

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35588] Tue, 14 June 2005 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Catspam and others who are waiting for the hacked code - i will be back in india on the 24th June - will send you the code ASAP Smile

Cheers!

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35589] Tue, 14 June 2005 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alright Zango. I appreciate the update.

Hope you're having a great trip.


Take care,

CatSpam

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Re: Editor to bing back KIA mercs?[message #35590] Thu, 30 June 2005 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Hey, Zango,

Sorry to keep bothering you, but I am hoping you can send me the hacked code sometime soon.

I am interested in seeing how this works.

My e-mail is catspam2@yahoo.ca


Thanks again,


CatSpam

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