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least important Mercenaries[message #126983] Mon, 08 May 2006 19:28 Go to next message
the scorpion

 
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it is an old debate, and opinions have been thrown around countless times, but if i were to replace an existing mercenary, who would it be?

there is hope that i won`t have to at all because the 1.13 team will externalize the prof.dat file so new mercenaries could be added (in the best case)

But then again, it is a delicate and highly complicated matter, and if it doesn`t happen in time (which would be tragic), and i were to replace Mercenaries, i would personally start with Dr. Clifford Highball "Cliff"

it would be a step-by-step process. ATM i think one guy to be overwritten would be enough.


ohhh, and since i am already at it, how many people would miss Devin? He is not yet overwritten so i guess he will be the option before Cliff

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126984] Tue, 09 May 2006 02:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Phantom is currently offline Phantom

 
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Hmm I think it would be a mistake to replace either - because they are very "individual" (no other character similar), and of course because I nearly always recruit them (yup, even though Devin's more useful as an arms dealer).
Their backgrounds are more logical in the world of real-life mercs.
I suspect that many players don't like Cliff simply because he has no special traits -but his skills make him a great choice for the early game.

The best mercs to replace would be those that somehow don't suit the setting (a guy like MD, nice guy, useful & cheap, but what's he doing as a mercenary?); there are many others who would never have parallels in reality;
or those that are too "vanilla", with little personality (MD again for me, I sometimes confuse him with Danny or Vincent Beaumont).

But a white South African of middle years & an Irishman with paramilitary connections are obvious mercenary material.

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126985] Tue, 09 May 2006 02:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Majek is currently offline Majek

 
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Buns has to go if anyone. Sh has to be the most annoying character not just a merc in the game. Her personality, her face,... the list just goes on and on. I hate her with passion.

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126986] Tue, 09 May 2006 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DaethWalker is currently offline DaethWalker

 
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I wouldn't have a problem with you replacing every merc and npc ... or at least giving them new faces and storylines in their files, while keeping the same voices and lines.

Preferably whatever will make it easier on you.

Remember, you are telling this story. So, you should pick and choose the characters that would go best with the story you are telling, not neccessarily everyone's favorite merc or npc.

Face it, you'll not please everyone, even if you keep every char from every game and mod and add 50 more. So, try to make yourself happy 1st.

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126987] Wed, 10 May 2006 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the scorpion

 
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i think all of you have a point

in the end i will take some decisions and people will like it or not. i fear some people`s favorites could be gone. But there will be cool new characters to hire.

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126988] Thu, 11 May 2006 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DaCheetah is currently offline DaCheetah

 
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I'd bet that between everyone on this forum, every merc is someones favorite. You can please all of the people some of the time...

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126989] Thu, 11 May 2006 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Majek is currently offline Majek

 
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I just hope Ice stays Very Happy

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126990] Sat, 13 May 2006 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AZAZEL is currently offline AZAZEL

 
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Originally posted by DaCheetah:
I'd bet that between everyone on this forum, every merc is someones favorite. You can't please all of the people some of the time(?)
Cliff,Stephen and Meltdown are on my list,as all time most underused.
It's not that they're not useful,or bargains;it's not about stats either.It has to do with speech.Their VOICE.
Personally,I'd rate a teaching-electronics Cliff as a lot more interesting char than the other 2,with that drinking backround,mistrust of others and so on.Why not replace a pair,liking eachothers?
(Dr.Q as the only asian?Why not a Chinese girl,and a Japanese?)

You know,I had peoples say to me that replacing Norma "Meltdown" or Gumpy is an insult to the original gamemakers...That JA2 without Biff is not the same thing.Never had the taste for rednecks,Hawire-Razor types, but they are important in the game economy...

Anyway,in my view the least important in the original game economy would be Bubba,Larry 1-2 and Numb.But Cougar stays.Not many people played with them, mainly because of the way MERC expands.That's where I'd place my replacements(eliminating hate relations from AIM)-with MERC available on day one.Maybe Cougar in AIM?

Or replace the whole damn MERC,Speck included, with a more respectable establishment if you have the taste for a revolution.Or enormous work.

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126991] Sat, 13 May 2006 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the scorpion

 
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lol stephen is one of my most used mercs. Maybe together with wolf

of course i would give skills to cliff, that still leaves his average face, his not particuliarly special accent and his low physical price at a high salary

atm i using up the rpc slots anyway so not much danger that AIM or MERC personnel have to go

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126992] Sun, 14 May 2006 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AZAZEL is currently offline AZAZEL

 
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Yup!Stephen,Meltdown and even Thor sound a hell of a lot better in german versions.
Oh,and you have mail.

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126993] Mon, 15 May 2006 01:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think bull is half useless when you got grizley or steriod... just as a thought

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126994] Wed, 17 May 2006 00:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the scorpion

 
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seems that a wise coder helped me a lot in ths respect. i might be able to leave the AIM guys a bit longer as they are

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126995] Mon, 07 August 2006 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AZAZEL is currently offline AZAZEL

 
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What about IMP faces?
I know I never played some of the faces;liked 2 of the boys, 2 or maybe 3 of the girls.
Replacing the most unused faces would most certainly bring new life to this side of the game, especially now that 1.13 gives players the possibility of "hiring" more of them.

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126996] Mon, 07 August 2006 03:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the scorpion

 
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that`s a good idea, just make sure you use the same eye/ mouth coordinates for the new faces as for the old ones. However, such mods already exist and i see not much use in looking for even more action movie actor/ actress pics when Ron has already a very nice selection of those, plus VDM ae faces mod...

but if you can come up with better faces than the origs we can incorporate this into the game

btw i tried to send you an exe for the loadscreens but damn gmail won`t let me send any exes. you`d find it searching the web

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126997] Mon, 07 August 2006 05:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AZAZEL is currently offline AZAZEL

 
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The problem is not as much doing the faces, even with original coordinates(been getting better at this), but finding likeable ones.
Especially since action or porno movies stars were not exactly what I had in mind...

Ok,getting that tool now.

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126998] Mon, 07 August 2006 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AWWWW! Come onnnnn !! Who wouldn't want a Nina Hartly on there team. Have her as a teaching "Sexpert". :naughty: Take some of the pressure off FOX. Maybe not, the guys in the squad wouldn't be getting much else done then. Razz

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #126999] Thu, 10 August 2006 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think Lynx can go...


Just kidding.

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #127000] Fri, 11 August 2006 00:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No Lynx is one of my most used Merc

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #127001] Fri, 11 August 2006 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the scorpion

 
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at the moment, only rpc`s are being replaced

this mod bases on 1.13 so stogie, gaston, biggins are in Smile

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #127002] Fri, 11 August 2006 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd prefer Sidney Nettleson to go -
never heard a word from his fan(s)

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #127003] Sat, 12 August 2006 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by Majek:
I just hope Ice stays Very Happy
Ice has to stay...who else would feed the dogs?

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Re: least important Mercenaries[message #127004] Tue, 29 August 2006 13:24 Go to previous message
DrewThirtyEight is currently offline DrewThirtyEight

 
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Originally posted by taxacaria:
I'd prefer Sidney Nettleson to go -
never heard a word from his fan(s)
I like him.

Cliff I don't even bother with. But if you are going to remove one, you should remove all of them. It isn't fair because just about everyone likes certain characters.

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