| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10613]
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Thu, 01 September 2005 06:12  
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| the scorpion |
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maybe you can force enemies with "stationary" order to remain on ground/ on roof where they were initially placed?
because AI going on roofs or climbing down at will can become a pain for a mapdesigner
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| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10614]
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Thu, 01 September 2005 07:26
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| Madd_Mugsy |
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Scorpion,
Done! Stationary guys now have zero chance of rooftop climbing up/down when status is green. They might (small chance) still climb to investigate noises or hunt down mercs above or below them, however.
gpmg,
Some enemies are assigned a "sniper" flag if they climb a roof and are either Defensive or CunningSolo personality types. Snipers won't climb down. This was dumb on my part though, because you may, rarely, end up with a whole sector of defensive/cunning enemies who all end up being snipers, even if they only have pistols.
In the next release, any personality will be able to become a sniper, but they will only become one if they've got a scope and a gun with a range >= 30.
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| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10615]
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Thu, 01 September 2005 07:40
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| the scorpion |
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thx! this comes handy once designing maps. because it`s strange to see the rooftop sniper that you manually placed in his spot climb down and seek the enemy
how much AP does the AI use to get on roofs? same as mercenaries i guess?
and (this question is directed at those that have already intensly tested this feature) do the AI have a tendency of coming up to the roof all on the same spot?
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| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10617]
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Thu, 01 September 2005 07:57
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| the scorpion |
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hm i see
because i have the tendency to actually wait for the enemy on the roof (again, i`m using an exe with this feature as well). usually they come up the same spot one after the other and usually don`t have enough AP left to fire/ seriously hurt my merc camping on the roof and waiting for them
could the AI throw grenades on the position they suspect a rooftop sniper too?
(don`t get me wrong, i like this feature, don`t want to bash the great stuff you have achieved so far)
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| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10619]
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Thu, 01 September 2005 08:07
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| the scorpion |
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oh, that`s really good to hear
now there is only the risk left for them to get interruptet when they climb up
but if my merc has tunnelvision because he uses a sniper scope he might not even see them climbing up
so this actually sounds very convincing muggsy!
btw i have heard that it should be possible to raise the number of tilesets (sorry i keep bugging about that)
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| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10621]
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Thu, 01 September 2005 09:07
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| the scorpion |
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my "wish" is to have a higher maximal number of tilesets
tileset folder for ja2 has around 50 or so sets of graphics that you can chose from for each map
UB has more of them (snow tilesets, Fall town and so on)
i thought, if you can add the guns from UB, you could also add tilesets. This is problematic because they would have to work with betaeditor to be of any use
the UB source also is around somewhere. if this miht be useful, i could search for the link
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| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10623]
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Thu, 01 September 2005 10:09
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| the scorpion |
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http://www.ja2.org/index.php?c=17
there you go, it is in russian, but to the right is an english name saying it is the UB source
hope this is any useful to you
oh, i just noticed it is apparantly the UB source in 800*600 instead of 640*480
so, apparently, some adjustments have been made to it (i hope, it still is useful for you)
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| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10625]
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Thu, 01 September 2005 11:17
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| the scorpion |
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i`m happy i could have helped you (even if the contribution is minor)
some have skills... others are well informed *gg*
btw according to members of the german board, it is even possible to raise the resolution to 1024*768 in that UB code
the thread about it is completely in german though
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| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10636]
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Fri, 02 September 2005 08:09
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| the scorpion |
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i think the AI used to be able to use these items togehter before, but i`m unsure. i think night goggles and gas masks should not be compatible, unless you want tear- and mustardgas to become completey obsolete (that would be sad, becasue enemies tend to use gas even if they had better solutions like shooting)
if you climb up on a roof, you become visible even in far distance because the sky behind you, even at night time, is much brighter than the house wall
this difference in contrast gives away that something is moving there
it`s similar like smoking at night (although a cigarette can be spotted much further off course)
this is in every version of ja2 AFAIK and is not unrealistic. Maybe the nsiper enemies in 1.13 hit more when interrupting a merc climbing on a roof? that might be a balance issue
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| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10641]
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Fri, 02 September 2005 10:26
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| the scorpion |
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i know the current release allows to wear gas mask and goggles at the same time
some people here even think it is realistic. i`d like to see them trying to wear a pair of night goggles over a gas mask! ever tried to shoot at something while wearing a gas mask? no? it is really hard. (even if you have an extraordinarily accurate weapon)
now imagine you have the gas mask and night goggles over it... no way you gonna be able to aim for something that moves and nooooooo way to hit it. this is no request (@muggsy) it is just my usual arguing with khor1255, but if you want it realistic, khor, add a 50 percent malus to aiming with gas mask and add a 75 percent malus to aim with gas mask AND night goggles at the same time
@muggsy
i think you`re doing right in exteranlising it. I`m usually not very particuliar about realism, but night goggles over a fully functional gas mask would never pass the reality check i`m afraid. a usual gas mask doesn`t allow night goggles and i like it that way, both for balance and for realism reasonsm, so i appreciate if this things can still be edited for each modmaker and his particuliar taste
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| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10644]
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Fri, 02 September 2005 11:24
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| the scorpion |
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yes. modern state of the art gas masks CAN mount night goggles. howevever my arulco doesn`t yet have them, so i`d like to have the possibilty to exclude thes etwo items (but as far as i understand, muggsy is working very hard on these things
i`m absolutely for a night vision scope. sometimes they can also be attached to existing triicon or other rifle scopes so they don`t necessarily exclude each other
so, a gas mask, a night vision scope and a triicon (or Acog or something) scope could in my opinion be used together and deliver good results
the nvg atop of gas masks is probably a bit over the top for a standard arulco infantry man (or Flo as another example)
btw the condition of your gasmask is essential to the chance on hitting anything while wearing a gas mask. But this is just a sidenote and not a request (@muggsy)
Edit:
if we can have multiple gas masks, then i`d agree that it is the best solution to have different gas mask versions
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| Re: "1.13" Mod - Main Thread[message #10646]
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Fri, 02 September 2005 12:27
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Enemies still have 100% accuracy with their throws, even when throwing at people that they shouldn't, in my estimation, be able to see. Perhaps a random radius should be in effect?
Also, I still think that enemies that a merc can't see shouldn't show up as definite black outlines when that merc is selected just because another can see them. It should reflect the mercs understanding of the enemies location through other mercs instructions, "No, aim a little more left!", etc. (usw). It's kinda ridiculous how well the current system works if your merc has a scope and decent Marksmanship (has worked out in my favor many times, but still feels kinda dirty). If possible, could one make it so that there is a larger graphic that represents the general area that the enemy is in, like a badguy fog using red smoke or the red enemy indicator that flashes when you first spot one (the red circles effect)? You could call it "Vague Locations" and assign it a radio button to toggle on or off. Again, please feel free to disregard or back-log this if it is either unnecessary or impossible. It might just be both since you would have to incorporate it for the AI as well, giving them the choice of which to fire at for the sniper code to work. Oh well, just had to get that out there.
Again, the "Mod" sounds great, plays just as well, and I look forward to more posts by our resident experts.
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