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| Re: MUSIC YOU LISTEN WHEN PLAYING JA2[message #148672]
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Mon, 09 July 2007 07:55  
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There is no such thing as a bad GENRE of music. ALL genres have a LARGE portion of CRAP artists. For every Led Zeppelin or Cream in rock & roll there are a thousand 'Bon Jovi's and 'Warrant's(and even worse) who, for whatever talents they may have, are(or were) churning out boring cliche crap.
Not all rap acts just take other people's music and rap over it(Sugar Hill Gang, considered forefathers of rap, played all the instruments on their albums, even the riff from LeChic's Good Times that appears on Rappers' Delight) but even disregarding that, rapping IS musicianship and lame-ass Envwei Malmstein cannot and could never rap effectively any better than Brotha' Lynch can play boring guitar solos. You may not like rap's focal instument(rythmic verbalization), just as I do not like the obo or the banjo but oh well.
Flavor Flav'(for all the ridicule he deserves for that stupid reality TV show) plays 11 different instruments including drums, piano, and guitar. Name ONE rock artist who does that off the top of your head.
It is fine to not like certain styles of music. Hell, I hate country, Polka, and most ska that I have heard but I would not write rants proclaiming that none of those genres are "real music" or some such.
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| Re: MUSIC YOU LISTEN WHEN PLAYING JA2[message #148837]
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Tue, 10 July 2007 06:35
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| Khor1255 |
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@ Lockie
I hope you don't burn me in effigy for saying that I actually like most of Desolation Boulevard from those UK proto tranny rockers. That is actually the kind of music that puts me in mind of games like this.
'Well it's Friday night and I need a fight
If she don't spread I'm gonna bust her head
The chick feels sad because her guy's been had
But what can we do when there's four of you'
Or
Out on the streets
That's what I said
Take it from me
You might be better off dead
Or
I lost control ah
Cause I got no soul ah
Etc. etc.
I went for years without listening to that stuff and it really hit me like a ton of bricks when I got reaquainted.
However, my mainstays are usually groups like Yes, King Crimson, Rush, very early Maiden (no dungeons and Dickensons please), Crack the Sky, etc.
For ja I often listen to bands like Mindfunk, Accept (pre Balls to the Wall), Angel Witch (first album and EPs only), etc. But Van Der Graff fits very well here too along with some Crimso.
@ Goth
I also don't feel like my opinion on the subject is any more valid than the next guy but there are some things Im afraid, I will never be able to develop an ear for. I kind of wish I could so that I could enjoy regular radio once in a while but you can only like what speaks to some part of you and you can only stretch the definition of music so far.
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| Re: MUSIC YOU LISTEN WHEN PLAYING JA2[message #148995]
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Wed, 11 July 2007 01:49
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| Sgt. Skeptic |
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Quote:However, my mainstays are usually groups like Yes, King Crimson, Rush, very early Maiden (no dungeons and Dickensons please), Crack the Sky, etc.
Actually, while I prefer the Paul Diano Maiden stuff myself, Dickenson cannot really be charged with bringing dungeons & Dragons to Maiden as they never really went that route, pre or post Diano. They certainly got suckier though with each album after Killers. Number of the Beast was still pretty good but with Piece of Mind(and the coming of guitarist Nicko McBain) they seemed to trade in the subdued black leather look for the 'patchwork spandex' look and their songs took on a less ominous, cliche' and poppy quality.
But they didn't even seemed to hint at the D&D thing up until "Bring your daughter to the slaughter" and such crapola that pre-empted Dickenson's departure.
I will say that Dickenson's voice was simply not right IMO. To much "Check out TIS note!" belting and seemingly trying to show up other vocalists or something.
Paul Dianno was not afraid of subtlety.
Quote:For ja I often listen to bands like Mindfunk,
There is a band you do not see mentioned often. Used to listen to them and Uncle Slam back in the day.
Quote: Accept (pre Balls to the Wall),
UDO! Actually Balls to the Wall was the only song by them that I cared to listen to more than once but Udo's voice was pretty cool. I don't know if it is true but I remember reading that the song "London Leatherboys" was about Judas Priest/Rob Halford, which would be amusing since this was written LONG before anyone really seemed to know he was gay.
Back to the "Is Rap music?" topic only briefly, my friends as a teenager in the 80s were either punks or metalheads(and I mean hardcore Slayer/Metallica fanatics when no one had heard of either) but even WE/they like Ghettoboys(back when they had their first rap album) and all punks have always liked underground rap like Tricky, Brotha' Lynch, etc.). I would go sop far as to say that even Khor would have to try pretty damned hard not to like old Ghettoboys stuff. Has a lot in common with metal as far as lyrical content, attitude and even musical sensibility.
Is rap music? Most definitely and this is fact, not opinion. Banging on a plastic bucket with a wooden spoon while chanting is music. Is rap GOOD music? That is in the eye of the beholder/ear of the listener. My opinion is that, as Gates said above(and I before him) 96% of ALL music is crap. Rock, rap, country etc. But good rap(especially the hybrid stuff done by folks like Consolidated, Rage Against the Machine, Tricky, Urban Dance Squad etc.) is good music...IMO.
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| Re: MUSIC YOU LISTEN WHEN PLAYING JA2[message #149416]
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Sat, 14 July 2007 17:25
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| DNA from the Lowlands |
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"Bracing myself for a torrent of abuse.............."
That did trigger the "Brace Yo' Se'f !!"-sample in me.
AC/DC, a car just passed playing ThunderStruck: that guitar-pardon-loop is too darn catchy, had me humming along, 2 mins after.
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| Re: MUSIC YOU LISTEN WHEN PLAYING JA2[message #150597]
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Wed, 25 July 2007 00:20
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| Thor |
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I use some movie themes of Stalone & Schwarzeneger films like First Blood (aka Rambo), Terminator, Running Man, etc.
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| Re: MUSIC YOU LISTEN WHEN PLAYING JA2[message #154011]
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Wed, 22 August 2007 04:20
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| akimbros |
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Last Caress by the misfits always seems to get to me when i "raid" the shirt factory in Drassen... "i dont know what else to say, i killed a baby today"
my current playlist that i go through is:
Agent oranges cover of Seek and destroy
Helena- Misfits
Last Caress- Misfits
Keasbey Nights- Catch 22
Point Counterpoint- Streetlight Manifesto
Hand of Doom- Manowar
War Pigs- needs no band name
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