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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348863 is a reply to message #348859]
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Tue, 14 February 2017 22:40
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Xafloz wrote on Tue, 14 February 2017 15:07
Tony indeed has miserable stockpile of weapons and especially ammo, but maybe it is connected with difficulty level.
Yeah, Tony is just an ATM at the moment you put in some guns, take the money and ignore his pathetic inventory playing Die Hard game, his uselesness also makes many weapons useless, with no BR, I just can't sustain the ammo usage of shotguns, or .40 weapons or in fact anything besides 9mm, .45 and 5.56. Everything else might as well be a club
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348867 is a reply to message #348863]
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Wed, 15 February 2017 16:26
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Nothing interesting, move along...
Toggle SpoilerQuote:Another character is taking over Shank's part with fuel quest with Jake in Estoni. Don't want to spoil too much here, but it is a character Jake already knows from a former JA2 game/mission eventually? ;)
Tried with Migueal, but no luck. Maybe Dynamo? I have no further ideas atm.
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348869 is a reply to message #348867]
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Wed, 15 February 2017 20:41
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@Xafloz Toggle SpoilerI freed Dynamo in Tixa, his purpose is: Toggle SpoilerTo get Matt in Alma, as soon u have him in your Squad and talk with him with Matt he joins ur cause and have finally the mising 50% mine income in Alma im advaning now to Malina lets see if im finding here something
I tried many settings and ended up with unmodified ini settings on Expert & Die Hard Mode with Drop All Items-> Slow Item Progression. Funny Thing is that i got the Automatic Rocket Rifle without Ammo in the Gas Sector near Alma as a Random Drop from an Elite but didnt got my hands on higher tier russian rifles. Especially AEK Series or the AN.. I think i saw them in the Items.xml so im curious now. Will there be more Weapon Choices in Future like Ak-12?
In General i noticed that i got Rifles like FN FAL, M16A4 etc mutch faster than any AK. And they still drop only FN FALs, SGs, M16s etc it seems like the whole AK series are a bit on short here especially the 5.45x39mm (RPK-74 is beast haha) is this on purpose? Even then i played with Drop All items on off i got in the first sectors of Onegro M16A4s etc.
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348875 is a reply to message #348869]
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Wed, 15 February 2017 22:26
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@to Infinet and whomever may be interested...
Toggle SpoilerGot fuel from Estoni. Dynamo seems to be a dual purpose npc. I'm surprised by that. He cheers up his brother and gets Jake`s stockpile corrected...
General impression regarding weapons...
Toggle SpoilerIn general I also spotted that AK family is underrepresented in the army espetiall AK-100 series of clones - found 3 or 4 AK 104 and one AK 102 (~10 sector unvisited, but 3 cities are still to control). If I'm reading correctly western weapons are better in terms of quality and more expensive that eastern ones. In the mod looks like the army prefers more expensive alternative. Especially there are too many SGs for my taste. Also using Slow Item Progression.
BTW Bought AEK and AN-94 Abakan from Tony. The second weapon has accuracy of 8 (more then many sniper rifles!!!) and fast two bullet burst. It rocks! AEK IMHO is nothing interesting. Well RPK seems for me only as so so. I prefer HK21E or modified MG36 because both accept x7 scope.
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348887 is a reply to message #348869]
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Fri, 17 February 2017 03:08
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Infinet wrote on Wed, 15 February 2017 23:41In General i noticed that i got Rifles like FN FAL, M16A4 etc mutch faster than any AK. And they still drop only FN FALs, SGs, M16s etc it seems like the whole AK series are a bit on short here especially the 5.45x39mm (RPK-74 is beast haha) is this on purpose? Even then i played with Drop All items on off i got in the first sectors of Onegro M16A4s etc.
Weapon progression is based on what real countries use in Latin America, it's hard to find 5.45x39 weapons and ammo there.
SIG weapons are used by some countries in Latin Amercia, also they manufacture SIG clones in Taurus company or something, though we don't have special 'SIG clone' weapons in the game.
There should be more than enough 7.62x39 weapons in enemy progression, as army uses many of these, and elites use more 5.56x45 and 7.62x51
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348894 is a reply to message #348893]
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Fri, 17 February 2017 16:08
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PCM_Readme.TXT is saying Toggle SpoilerMaria, automatically joins the squad after having met Angel.
Like Skryider, there's some time between the end of the quest and her joining the squad.
After having talked to Angel, Maria will leave the leather shop and, once standing on the road, join the player's squad.
In that time between the end of the quest (history log beeps) and her joining, the player can go to the strategic screen if he doesn't want Maria to join the squad.
So its not like vanilla becouse u cant recruit her in vanilla to fight with u. I talk with Angel with a MERC with 98 Leadership he does not give me any quest, well pcm says i only have to met him so i go to maria and she dont want to join me to go to angel.
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To the weapons, i still find thompsons in a game progression of 80/80. In my whole play trough i only found 2-3 AKM's and 2 RPKs. I usually get some MGs some Snipes and only western european weapons. And the rest are armed with trash like thompsons and other smgs. Since i liberated Malino, they started to drop some AK-103s and AK-104s. I understand that they are likely to take nato weapons but in my opinion they should drop more AKs becouse i dont think that the army should walk with some guys equipped with thompsons and the other with higher tier fn fals, sgs and top mg's. Its just pretty unbalanced in my eyes. Especially when the elites start to drop Automatic Rocket Rifles before any other top tier rifle. In some way RPG 7s found their way into the country but aks not.
I already got my hands on fn fals, m16s and snipers in the first sectors of oronegro in drop all activated and deactivated. Its pretty unbalanced in both ways. Have to visit Tony maybe there i get my satisfaction
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Thanks @Xafloz
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348895 is a reply to message #348894]
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Fri, 17 February 2017 16:19
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Infinet wrote on Fri, 17 February 2017 15:08PCM_Readme.TXT is saying Toggle SpoilerMaria, automatically joins the squad after having met Angel.
Like Skryider, there's some time between the end of the quest and her joining the squad.
After having talked to Angel, Maria will leave the leather shop and, once standing on the road, join the player's squad.
In that time between the end of the quest (history log beeps) and her joining, the player can go to the strategic screen if he doesn't want Maria to join the squad.
So its not like vanilla becouse u cant recruit her in vanilla to fight with u. I talk with Angel with a MERC with 98 Leadership he does not give me any quest, well pcm says i only have to met him so i go to maria and she dont want to join me to go to angel.
Thanks @Xafloz
Everything works exactyl like in vanilla until the end of the quest, after you bring her to Angel, get bla bla bla, kevlar leather and useless deed, Maria gets auto recruited (unless you interrupt it like it says up there). Went through that 3 or 4 times with no problem, so can't really say what is the problem, it works flawlessly for me
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348899 is a reply to message #348898]
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Fri, 17 February 2017 17:16
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Infinet |
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Flamethrower Toggle SpoilerMy first playtrough was with SCI FI so i went to drassen mines to clean it from the bugs but find instead a secret underground base with a flamethrower in the last/best guarded underground sector in a box. So dont make the same mistake and make sure u dont have sci fi checked Didnt visit drassen mines in my latest play trough yet kinda forgot about it but it should be still there.
The funny thing is i just cleared out a sector near Malino and just got 5 RPKS A bit late though.
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348906 is a reply to message #348895]
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Sat, 18 February 2017 04:30
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LatZee wrote on Fri, 17 February 2017 16:19Infinet wrote on Fri, 17 February 2017 15:08PCM_Readme.TXT is saying Toggle SpoilerMaria, automatically joins the squad after having met Angel.
Like Skryider, there's some time between the end of the quest and her joining the squad.
After having talked to Angel, Maria will leave the leather shop and, once standing on the road, join the player's squad.
In that time between the end of the quest (history log beeps) and her joining, the player can go to the strategic screen if he doesn't want Maria to join the squad.
So its not like vanilla becouse u cant recruit her in vanilla to fight with u. I talk with Angel with a MERC with 98 Leadership he does not give me any quest, well pcm says i only have to met him so i go to maria and she dont want to join me to go to angel.
Thanks @Xafloz
Everything works exactyl like in vanilla until the end of the quest, after you bring her to Angel, get bla bla bla, kevlar leather and useless deed, Maria gets auto recruited (unless you interrupt it like it says up there). Went through that 3 or 4 times with no problem, so can't really say what is the problem, it works flawlessly for me
Alrighty ill try again with a new game when i got trough all sectors in my current run.
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So anyone got the quest with Manuel and Pacos done?
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348917 is a reply to message #348913]
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Sun, 19 February 2017 23:31
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Greyfoot wrote on Mon, 20 February 2017 02:07Hey guys, could anyone explain to me in layman terms how damage dealt is calculated and also what values affect remaining AP`s after being shot? Penetration values are all very similar of all ammuntion so as of now it takes 2-3 shots to the torso from 5.56 and 7.62 NATO rounds to drop a bad guy. I guess it depends on the gun itself and not the ammo? Still I find it a bit annoying that grunts take 2 shots or a 3 round burst to the chest and they keep shooting back happily. My lvl 7+ mercs get hit once and they are unable to retaliate or move or do anything really,all while wearing good body armour. Igor just got hit by an m2 carbine to the chest with full health wearing a close to 100% kevlar with ceramic plates and got knocked out for 3 rounds. I shot the shooter,a red shirt sergeant, in the head with a Steyr scout for 50% damage from less than 20 tiles away. Needless to say he crawled behind cover just to return the next round to fight. It seems as of now, assault rifles only hold advantage over smg`s by effective range.
APBPConstants.ini
AP_GET_WOUNDED_DIVISOR = 1
BP_GET_HIT = 200
BP_GET_WOUNDED = 50
Quote:Is there any way to overhaul penetration and/or damage dealt by weapons for the next release?
No, unless there will be someone wanting to overhaul the whole weapon mod. It's too much work.
It would be much better if VR used SDO or AFS mods as base weapon/item mod for better balance but currently it is based on stock 1.13 with all it's balance flaws.
Quote:My lvl 7+ mercs get hit once and they are unable to retaliate or move or do anything really,all while wearing good body armour. Igor just got hit by an m2 carbine to the chest with full health wearing a close to 100% kevlar with ceramic plates and got knocked out for 3 rounds.
This should not happen, looks like a bug, maybe related to background bug that was fixed recently.
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348938 is a reply to message #348937]
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Tue, 21 February 2017 22:05
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So im now @ 86/86 progression and this is the loot im getting from a only elite full squad - diffiqulty is expert (the one before insane), tons of weapons, drop all, die hard mode.
I didnt sell anything. No Nightvision, No Armor. Existing Equip is pretty damaged - i knifed the most of the guys. I dont even need AP Ammo... Heres definitly something wonky.
Should the post put into the Bug Forum? I dont think this should be like that.
Ill continue not selling and look for other sectors loot.
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #349070 is a reply to message #348249]
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Tue, 28 February 2017 12:43
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Perhaps someone is interested?
A short explanation:
Gewichtg. = Quota, p.e. Health: 10 %.
Sorry, the attachment is only a picture. If anybody is interested to change the skills (p.e. Leadership 10 % is not enough for him): You may get the original "Excel" per privat E-Mail -->please tell me:PM.
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #349096 is a reply to message #349070]
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Thu, 02 March 2017 13:06
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As to my ranking list above:
Toggle SpoilerYou may choose between Carmen and Terry. Terry is ever in J 3 and you must seek for Carmen in G 9, C 5 or C 13.
I have tested it with the former version of VR. I got Carmen after presenting 5 heads of terrorists. I got him only by cheat and he don't wish the head from Terry not by cheat but only by defeating him.
Then he comes automaticly.
Carmen is some better than Terry, but you can get it without cheat with the new version of VR. Therefore I prefer Terry.
This may be interesting:
Toggle SpoilerBABYFACE, in the erlier versions IRON, you can get in F 10 after talking with Dick (by a nice woman). If this woman has not enough skill, talk to "Babyface" with another character (p. e. Rudolph) a second time.
GRANDEE: Not a RPC but merc from A.I.M. He is in my list because he is new and I ever, ever use him: Marksmanship 99 and his HK PSG1: You don't have to load it between the shots in distinction from SHADOW's
or REAPER's rifle.
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #349120 is a reply to message #349119]
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Fri, 03 March 2017 19:15
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cbasd wrote on Fri, 03 March 2017 21:49Also, how to increase the accuracy of weapons ? I definitely miss too much
1. Train marksmanship
2. Use scopes, lasers and bipods
3. Don't allow enemy to suppress your mercs, as suppression will reduce effective marksmanship and dexterity greatly
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #349124 is a reply to message #349123]
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Fri, 03 March 2017 19:58
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@cbasd,
sorry, you surely don't know: I was able to test Vengeance Reloaded from the very beginning years ago.
Look at the credits in the game menu under "Others". These tests had been unofficial. I love this mod.
By the way: I was the only tester of Vengeance_1.13 by scorpion and had released it in the German forum.
I know the story of the game from Alpha to Omega and when something is new I test it first. And the possibility to assign Carmen was new in the former Version.
And in the former version you could use CTRL GABBI.
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #349193 is a reply to message #349151]
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Tue, 07 March 2017 12:53
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Please help.
Ilya's name is "read" and I cannot shoot!
I have changed his equipment.
That's the reason, isn't it? What shall I do? Change Ja2_options.ini?
Thanx for help!
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #349195 is a reply to message #349194]
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Tue, 07 March 2017 18:32
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@Jean Luc Picard
Ja2_options.ini:
MINE_NO_FOREMAN_PENALTY = 50
May be that is the reason:
Setting 0 instead of 50 = 100 % income.
I believe you don't need a new game.
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #349199 is a reply to message #349198]
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Tue, 07 March 2017 23:29
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Sorry for my mistake.
My question above: "read" instead of "red".
I dressed him in the meantime with his cap: He is able to shoot now.
But when I change the sector I get the message that I have dedicated a wrong clothing.
Edit: I have helped myself. After saving and starting the gamesave he is now "white"!
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #349210 is a reply to message #349209]
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Wed, 08 March 2017 08:57
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1. Not sure what you mean there, unless your monitor is running at a different res than the game. Sometimes switching from a mercs inventory ui blocks out some of the map, so using the team portraits UI might help. Otherwise I don't know, maybe get a screenshot of the problem.
2. No you can't change the timing of your insertion, the mission begins at dawn I believe from the air.
3. Bobby Rays and Tony will have more of a choice when the new build is ready, as mentioned many times before some of these values weren't checked in late in the first beta release. In the meantime, or at the start of the game consider carefully what starting kits to use with mercs you employ. Other options are to consider looting maps that may have some weapon stashes, or stealing guns from other factions other than the Queen's army. Don't forget Arulco not only has it's own army but other warlord groups and company factions that might have different tools you might want to make use of, but there's always consequences.
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