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Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #353310] Mon, 23 April 2018 21:26 Go to next message
ElecMS is currently offline ElecMS

 
Messages:13
Registered:November 2009
Hey folks, on the latest SVN version of GameData, and the latest compiled .exe I could find (8555), I am experiencing a game-breaking bug where after a sector receives reinforcements, a turn or three later I can no longer select mercs or groups, or click cancel, on the Strategic Map screen. The list on the far left is clickable, rest of the UI is responsive, but the small dialog when selecting a merc or a group in a sector cannot be interacted with.

This is my current long term save (50% progress), as I just met Mike. After attacking a sector, 1 turn after reinforcements arrive I can no longer select mercs on the Strategic Map. Also interesting is that I can't click Cancel at the bottom of the dialog.

I've painstakingly played and replayed from old saves to determine the trigger for this issue, and it only seems to happen a few turns after enemy reinforcements arrive at a sector that I am attacking, after they are alerted to my presence. I am a chronic restarter of this game... probably 20 campaigns over the years as I restart when things get easier, but this is my longest running playthrough and I would love to actually finish the end game with the new features.

Has anyone seen anything like this? Any ideas where the bug may be located? I can continue to progress in my save only with Spy/Stealth kills, but this is frustrating.

I can attach a save, but it currently says that I am limited to 0kb, possibly because I have a low post count?

I am interested in potentially trying to help debug this issue, being a C# programmer myself, but I haven't been able to successfully compile an exe using VS 2017 CE, the solution defaults to compiling a .lib rather than an exe? (seperate post here http://thepit.ja-galaxy-forum.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=353311&#msg_353311)

[Updated on: Mon, 23 April 2018 21:31]

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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #353313 is a reply to message #353310] Mon, 23 April 2018 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can you exit to tactical by pressing [Esc], or re-enter combat by selecting the sector on the map (that should call the screen where you can select tactical, autoresolve or retreat)?

Usual solution for savegames is to upload them to some filehoster and just post the link here. Putting your JA2_Options.ini alongside it would also be helpful, in case a specific setting affects this.



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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #353316 is a reply to message #353313] Mon, 23 April 2018 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ElecMS is currently offline ElecMS

 
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Sorry, meant to state that! Yes, I can exit the dialog to tactical by pressing Escape, and I can re-enter combat by selecting a sector on the map (or pressing space) and selecting "Go to Sector".

Hey, I really appreciate your work on this project, by the way! big grin

Here's the save: https://nofile.io/f/PNJZtTUnhfE/SaveGame100.sav

And the JA2_Options.ini: https://nofile.io/f/FtK3H6K2Kg4/Ja2_Options.INI (updated, sorry, I included the wrong one)

I have tried opening the same save with the default SVN JA2_Options.ini, and the issue still occurs.

[Updated on: Tue, 24 April 2018 04:37]

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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #353317 is a reply to message #353316] Mon, 23 April 2018 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ElecMS is currently offline ElecMS

 
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Got the latest exe to compile! On starting my save prior to the bug, I get the following debug message in the game log (bottom of tactical screen)

https://preview.ibb.co/koQZOc/Truck_Error.jpg

However, with this latest SVN exe, after exiting tactical to test selection of groups, I can open the sector where the battle is occurring, but when I select "Go To Sector" I hear a click but nothing happens. Weird. But, I am able to get back to the action with the down arrow button next to the laptop.

[Updated on: Mon, 23 April 2018 23:31]

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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #353321 is a reply to message #353317] Tue, 24 April 2018 04:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ElecMS is currently offline ElecMS

 
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Haven't figured out the difference yet, but I have encountered a situation where simultaneously:

I can't select a group or merc on the strategic map from the dialog, nor can I click 'Cancel'
I can't exit the dialog with Escape, but can left click elsewhere on the strategic map to dismiss the dialog
Can click "Go to sector" to try to continue the fight, but if I hit the down arrow button, or hit Escape a couple of times I can get back in the fight.

Save: https://nofile.io/f/0b9P8aKfG3u/SaveGame103.sav

I thought for a minute that the SVN compiled exe might actually not have the problem, as it was quite a few turns after sector reinforcements before the bug hit, but eventually it did. speechless

[Updated on: Tue, 24 April 2018 04:38]

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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #353323 is a reply to message #353321] Tue, 24 April 2018 06:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ElecMS is currently offline ElecMS

 
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Was able to step through the code finally using "Break All", and got to step through CreatePopUpBoxForMovementBox, which runs the first time you open the dialog, and then runs again when you've clicked on a person, setting the asterisks around their name to show selection.

When the bug occurs, CreatePopUpBoxForMovementBox occurs for the first paint, but when you then try to select the group or merc, the second CreatePopUpBoxForMovementBox does not fire, as if my click didn't go through.

However, the mouseover highlights work properly - anything under my cursor is changed to white, including the Cancel option. Just can't get a click to register.


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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #353327 is a reply to message #353323] Tue, 24 April 2018 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ElecMS is currently offline ElecMS

 
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I now believe that this is the game running out of some sort of game engine resource, (like MouseRegions?), rather than anything in the game timeline itself.

After messing around trying to tease out a common factor, I was able to make this save https://nofile.io/f/JCUoQwrnhn5/AutoSaveGame01.sav which is just on the brink of the bug.

While the game progress is paused, typically only opening the laptop and shutting it will cause the bug to occur, where I cannot select a group, merc, or click cancel from the Strategic Map. If once doesn't work, try opening the laptop screen again a couple of times.

Opening the options menu doesn't seem to be enough, but opening the save menu seems to tip things over the edge.

I have also had other button oddities, though not frequently. Rarely, sometimes Group and Cancel will be unclickable, but the lone merc name is selectable.

@Flugente, you seem to have had experience in this space, any ideas how I could monitor / find this resource? Is MouseRegions barking up the wrong tree?

Would you be willing to open this save and see if you have the same outcome?

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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #353497 is a reply to message #353327] Mon, 14 May 2018 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wanne (aka RoWa21) is currently offline wanne (aka RoWa21)

 
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@mouse regions: there is a debug switch which shows all the mouse regions as white rectangles. very useful to see if any old invalid mouse regions still exists on new screens.

[Updated on: Mon, 14 May 2018 23:26]

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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #363424 is a reply to message #353497] Sun, 27 June 2021 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
K-Tom is currently offline K-Tom

 
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i am facing the same issue on the pure last stabile 7609 with no battle actually going on.

on my last save game all works fine, when i load and just do some small action or change, it occurs.
no merc or squad can be chosen....., i had one strange case, when only Miguel was choosable....
any idea, how to solve it?

always changing into the sector and move to next sector from there would be possible by feet, but the bug makes the cars unuseable.

because i did not find this thread on first search, i opened a new one, which can be deleted:

http://thepit.ja-galaxy-forum.com/index.php?t=msg&th=24857&start=0&

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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #363431 is a reply to message #363424] Mon, 28 June 2021 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shadooow is currently offline Shadooow

 
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Unfortunately stable != bug free.

Try AI+ version for stable, might have this fixed. There is also supposed to be stable version with additional fixes, but I couldn't find it anywhere.

Other than that, either don't use reinforcements or if you get this bug anyway, use cheats and win the battle with them.

Alternatively download latest unstable version, but you won't be allowed to continue in your previous save...

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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #363441 is a reply to message #353310] Wed, 30 June 2021 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sludge is currently offline Sludge
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Registered:June 2021
Hello,

I recently encountered the exact same issue: on strategic map the travel command pop-up did suddenly get disabled. Unable to select anyone anymore, and the only way to reverse from the window was clicking elsewhere on the map. (Arulco Revisited, Seven's +AI-exe, and numerous settings tweaked in ini- and xml-files. Game day ~120, 32 mercs, 2 vehicles, Meduna and Recreo sectors left to liberate).

Tried with earlier saves, making actions differently, this and that.. the bug always occurred no matter what and I thought it's game over now. Thankfully it was not game-breaking after all:
While not able to determine a root cause or solution to fix the original issue, I figured out an alternative method to enable travel commands;
- When you click a destination column ("DEST") in the mercenary list in strategic view, you are able to assign all those same travel commands. (It activates the same function as the disabled pop-up window did.)
- For mercs and squads, you can either click the mercs individually, select the entire squads, or the entire crowd by pressing SHIFT + topmost and the bottommost merc on the list (sorting the list helps, if necessary, by clicking column titles). Then just click on empty region in DEST column and select your destination in the map.
- In order to assign travel commands for vehicles, just press DEST column for any merc inside the vehicle, and the travel command for the entire vehicle squad comes active.

While a bit more clumsy than the (no longer functioning) map overhead selection, this will definitely be a more desired option than quitting the game and cease liberating Arulco from the hands of a tyranny. The function has been working steadily for the rest of my campaign with no further issues encountered with travel commands. Likely, you'll get used to it quickly.


(New member here, although been lurking on the forum for longer time and spending - who knows how much - time with this all-time favorite mercenary simulator since the first JA, DG, JA2 from the 90's. - Sincerest thanks to the community for all the love & effort in keeping this thing alive, running and evolving!)

[Updated on: Wed, 30 June 2021 12:13]

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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #363442 is a reply to message #363441] Wed, 30 June 2021 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can try different +AI version.


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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #363443 is a reply to message #363442] Wed, 30 June 2021 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shadooow is currently offline Shadooow

 
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Upload a save from vanilla stable version and I might take a look into it. But even if it is not already fixed in unstable version, the fix will only be added into unstable since stable is unchanged version.

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Re: Unable to select mercs on Strategic Map after sector reinforcement[message #363474 is a reply to message #363441] Tue, 06 July 2021 16:21 Go to previous message
K-Tom is currently offline K-Tom

 
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Hey Sludge,

many thanks for that hint.
Like that the bug can be ignored and funcionality is still given.
It would have been quite a shame, doing all the preparations for the final battle and then being stopped by the technique.....,

carry on ;)

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