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Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #50135] Thu, 19 October 2006 08:34 Go to next message
Foreigner is currently offline Foreigner

 
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Hi all,

I just started playing the v1.13 enhanced version 602, and it's incredible. However, I must say my jaw dropped when, on day 2, the Drassen mine was attacked by 98 elite soldiers -- poor Barry and Ira didn't stand a chance.

Is this normal??? I am indeed playing on expert mode for the first time, but, still, 98?? Did it do that in the stock version?

Thanks!

Foreigner

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #50136] Thu, 19 October 2006 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shed23 is currently offline shed23

 
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Welcome to 1.13 (he,he,he!)

Never used expert mode. Wait till you try insane, then your problems REALLY start!!

Seriously, from what I can understand, this 'appears' to be normal. Maybe trying different settings in the 'options' will help - eg: training veteran melitia/mobile melitia.

Stock version? Not that I ever encountered. Got bad, but not that bad.

Don't be put off, it's great and makes you think.

Regards.

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #50137] Thu, 19 October 2006 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kaiden is currently offline Kaiden

 
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You can turn the drassen mine recapture event OFF if you want, in the INI file.

I personally like it. But I'm a bit twisted sometimes.

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #50138] Thu, 19 October 2006 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Foreigner is currently offline Foreigner

 
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But 98 elites at Drassen on day 2??? Isn't this impossible? Or at least quite a bit over the top?

Believe me, I do appreciate the extra touches -- those four f'ing snipers on top of the building at the Drassen AA site were a royal pain in the ass, and couldn't even be flanked without some serious luck and lots and lots of ALT-L -- this made it all the more sweet to blow them off the side of the building.

Does the normal difficulty mode have this as well?

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #50139] Thu, 19 October 2006 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Foreigner is currently offline Foreigner

 
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kaiden:
You can turn the drassen mine recapture event OFF if you want, in the INI file.

I personally like it. But I'm a bit twisted sometimes.
So that IS supposed to happen... Yikes! How many enemy soldiers (and what caliber) can I expect on normal difficulty for the Drassen recapture?

In other words, is Expert difficulty a fairly linear increase in enemy forces, or is it a multifold leap?

Thanks!

Foreigner

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #50140] Thu, 19 October 2006 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WHOA -- update -- I just looked at the strategic map during the 98-enemy attack. The surrounding squares show at least another 50 inbound.

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #50141] Thu, 19 October 2006 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Foreigner is currently offline Foreigner

 
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So on Insane level, we must get something like two armored divisions with mortars and LAWs galore. Smile

I can just see it now: "I MEF approaching! Damn! I'm running low on .38 ammo!"

(1st Marine Expeditionary Force -- the Marine Corps is divided into three, with I on the west coast and II on the east).

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #50142] Fri, 20 October 2006 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Solinx is currently offline Solinx
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They really made v1.13 insane hard then Very Happy

BTW. Im not a moderator here, but did you know there
is an Edit button? :rolleyes:

Solinx

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #50143] Fri, 20 October 2006 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kaiden is currently offline Kaiden

 
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@Foreigner, it was originally disabled in JA2, but it was a scripted event. So we enabled it. At first it wasn't even optional, but as you can guess, that lasted less than a day Smile

Expert is a significant jump from experienced. However, ALL levels have the counter-attack enabled. Three full garrisons are sent from Alma to retake the mine, they surround Drassen, and if you have ALLOW_REINFORCMENTS set to true, they'll all try to come in at once. If you don't, then you should only have to deal with them one at a time.

And again, no matter the diff level, you CAN turn the event OFF so that it doesn't happen at all.

Although I've never tried NOVICE since I first played JA2, I'd imagine that most if not all would be red-shirts and yellow-shirts, and probably 60 total from all 3 squads.

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #50144] Tue, 07 November 2006 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Damn.. I thought this was a bug too. Im being attacked right now in drassen mine by over 50 reds and elites. Luckily Im hiding in the sw house where the header miner is. Each time an enemy comes inside, they are met by my 6 mercs giving them headshots Razz

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #50145] Tue, 07 November 2006 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I haven't installed v1.13 yet. But this topic has given me a very good reason Wink

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #163683] Mon, 05 November 2007 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hell I just enabled multishot grenade launchers loaded up on Napalm and airburst grenades and then posted all my mercs on the western side of the board (minus Ira she was on top of the dentist's office). I must have killed 90+ guys with just Napalm and airburst grenades.

Warhawk

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #163689] Mon, 05 November 2007 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I played this last night, with only IMP and rebels + MERC. That was a tough one! The best weapons I had was one MP5 and one of the Russian SMGs with the drum magazine. Rest had pistolas only.

I had to camp out in the northern bar in the mine sector, everyone crouched behind the pool table with guns trained on the door. Gumpy did not fare so well and Razor took a few heavy hits too, and the encounter took more than an hour to play.

There were some interupts and quite a few of Diedrannas elites who suddenly had splitting headaches for no apparent reason. :devilaugh:

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #163743] Mon, 05 November 2007 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Location: in a van, down by the riv...
Ahem.

http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/136761/page/1#Post136761

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #163752] Mon, 05 November 2007 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sibben is currently offline Sibben

 
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The first time I played 1.13 I actually waited with Drassen until I had taken both Cambria and Chitzena and some caches. I came with a full squad of well equipped mercs and had the luck of it being a night attack. Two snipers on the roof of the toilets and my other guys spread around it. That was an awesome battle too.

Initially I considered modding it out but I kind of like the challenge. Worst case scenario, I guess, is to give up Drassen and then pick the patrols off one by one, which I guess you could do too. Otherwise, as mentioned, it's easy to mod out.

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #163769] Tue, 06 November 2007 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There can only be 32 enemies at one time. As you kill them replacements from adjoining sectors will be added in.

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Re: Um... 98 elites attacking Drassen on Day 2???[message #164619] Fri, 16 November 2007 11:50 Go to previous message
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Ermmmm 90 is nothing....

I took the slow approach. Training my mercs up a bit and buying some Bobby ray stuff. The battle lasted for ever o_O

I have to admit im really beginning to love this battle Smile

Insanemode:
http://upload.megabithosting.nl/Brian/ja2-168-2.JPG
http://upload.megabithosting.nl/Brian/ja2-168.JPG

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