Modern day tactics.[message #205757]
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Wed, 07 January 2009 16:22
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K33N |
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Hi im quite new to this forum but not to the game.
I have read almost every walkthrough and guide the net had to offer but i never could find a good guide containing battle strategies.
I want to find new ways to beat the game, not by using glitches inside the AI or cheap ways to winning a battle.
Does such a guide that features the efficiency of flanking or suppression fire or other tactics.
If not, how would you solve these scenarios with your team and your gear.
[Updated on: Wed, 07 January 2009 16:22] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Re: Modern day tactics.[message #205759]
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Wed, 07 January 2009 16:38
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I would hypothetically shoot every enemy in sight. Exactly what do you mean by outflanked? If the enemy flanks you your tactics were crap to begin and you may want to start there instead of looking for a tactic to get out of it.
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Master Sergeant
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Re: Modern day tactics.[message #205761]
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Wed, 07 January 2009 16:51
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K33N |
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When attacking a major city i have sometimes encountered being attacked from multiple angles from enemy reinforcement, what i was looking for was not criticism but knowledge how to lower the casualties in such a scenario using different tactics.
Peace.
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Re: Modern day tactics.[message #205766]
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Wed, 07 January 2009 17:02
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cougar |
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Plan your attack. Don't attack the middle sector of Drassen first as the enemy will be reinforced from two sides (or three if you are playing Wildfire). If possible you want to make sure that the enemy can only be reinforced from one side. Make sure which side this is and remember that they can be reinforced from greyed out sectors (unvisited).
Make sure you have a plan of escape. Always be on the lookout for the best exit point. Note that this is not always beelining to the edge, it may be a longer route that allow you to go from cover to cover.
Cover your flanks! I can't stress this enough, I have seen people complaining about being flanked and later they reveal that their entire team were equipped with battle scopes and sniper scopes and were all facing the main enemy force. If you don't have a wall behind you make sure you keep a 360 degrees watch.
Pay attention to sounds. Equip your mercs with extended ear as soon as you can, even before NVG if you have to prioritize.
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Master Sergeant
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Re: Modern day tactics.[message #205772]
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Wed, 07 January 2009 17:31
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foij |
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Registered:February 2007 Location: in a van, down by the riv... |
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In 1.13, expect to get flanked, its built into the enemy AI now.
Some suggestions: field more mercs in each battle. In late game, I send in 12 to 15 mercs (I don't use mules) at a time, divided into 3 squads. Spread the squads across the entry side, for example, if attacking from the north/south, have a middle group, as well as an east and a west group. This is especially crucial in outdoor forest maps, since it may be difficult to move a squad under fire to the next group of trees for cover. If one squad is pinned down by enemy fire, your other squads may be able to pull off a flanking maneuver themselves, and you'll be able to fire on enemies from two directions, usually with lethal results.
In you get outnumbered and flanked in urban environments, try the collapsing bag defense (you must have some room for retreat though). When your lead elements make contact with the enemy, trade a few shots to get them come to you. The AI will start swarming within 2 or 3 turns, at most. Have a backup squad in cover a few paces back. Once the enemy comes, retreat your first squad (under smoke is better), which will lure the enemy into your second squad, which will take them down with aimed fire.
Other suggestions: 1) use grenade launchers (multishot launchers are awesome, like the Milkor). Great for taking out groups of enemies, and enemies hit with grenades lose significant return fire accuracy. You can easily get 2 shots off per turn with the Milkor. 2) use smoke grenades; enemies cannot shoot accurately through smoke, even snipers will miss. This will force the AI to move towards you, allowing you to engage him at middle to close range. 3) use suppression fire, get the HAM mod, which fixes how suppression fire works, and let her rip!
[Updated on: Wed, 07 January 2009 17:33] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Sergeant 1st Class
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Re: Modern day tactics.[message #205815]
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Thu, 08 January 2009 04:25
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systemfehler |
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MikeTheProI have to admit sometimes when I get outflanked(recently I'm playing with just one merc-the IMP) I retreat to a nearby sector.Good news is that the dead are dead and if you killed them the number of enemies in the other sector will remain the same unless new troops come in from somewhere.
Retreating to nearby sectors is nothing to be ashamed of, after all this is guerrilla warfare. I find myself retreating a lot lateley when I feel the odds are turning against me, and that is mostly before someone of my guys gets hit.
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Re: Modern day tactics.[message #205848]
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Thu, 08 January 2009 16:37
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K33N |
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Now that's very good knowledge!
I usually come in from multiple angles with different teams serving different purposes such as
sniper team, stealth team and HW team in late game, i try to use to right equipment and try to use my surroundings.
Very good tips man.
Peace!
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Re: Modern day tactics.[message #205851]
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Thu, 08 January 2009 16:59
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K33N |
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Man... very helpful tips!
Now i could try getting attention with a team and then try flanking with an other team or as a escaping maneuver.
I prefer using GL instead of grenades because of the range.
But wont the smoke make your accuracy less effective also, or should i only use it for escape?
Does even suppression work in 1.13?
What is this HAM mod?
Peace to you!
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Re: Modern day tactics.[message #205854]
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Thu, 08 January 2009 17:05
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K33N |
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Light curtain sounds interesting, i will try to use it. You see i haven't done much night combat, even using NVG i they mostly spot me before i do. Maybe using a squad of nightops would help.
Whats your trick on successful night combat?
Could i use flashbang instead of grenade?
Peace!
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Re: Modern day tactics.[message #205855]
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Thu, 08 January 2009 17:10
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foij |
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First, learn to edit your posts, rather than adding 3 new ones.
Look up HAM here (it fixes suppression, amongst other things):
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=201726&page=1#Post201726
Smoke is for cover, don't try to fire through it (unless you're using grenades). If the enemy can't shoot you through smoke, don't try to shoot him back through it.
An enemy hit by a flashbang will lose the ability to interrupt you, so you can move your squad safely on your turn; it wouldn't otherwise hurt them, or their accuracy. As soon as you hit 'end turn' an enemy hit with a flashbang will have no more ill effects, and will be free to shoot you. Flashbangs only work at night, or indoors.
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Re: Modern day tactics.[message #205856]
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Thu, 08 January 2009 17:11
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K33N |
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Nice tips! I'm eager to make a functioning nightops team.
But does camo really work? I have read of its uselessness...
Maybe using remote detonated explosives to attract attention and flanking or just exiting the area.
What do you think?
Peace to you!
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Re: Modern day tactics.[message #205868]
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Thu, 08 January 2009 17:52
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cougar |
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Hi and welcome to a quick course in forum etiquette and techniques:
What you have done now is called double posting (or multiposting). What this means is that you put several of your own posts in a row. This is bad for several reasons which I won't cover here.
To fix it you use one post and then if you want to add anything else you edit it by pressing the Edit button, this button is located to the far left on row of buttons in the, just to the left of the Reply button.
If you want to address several people like above you should do the following:
Press the Quick quote button in each of the messages you want to address, this will put the the entire message in quote tags with the original posters name like this:
cougarThis is what I said in another post Then you can put your answers between the quotes like this:
foijFirst, learn to edit your posts, rather than adding 3 new ones. Answer to foij goes here.
K33NCould i use flashbang instead of grenade? Answer to K33N goes here.
Since all quotes goes into the quick reply area you can do it there or just copy and paste it to a reply if you need more advanced functions. This could also be used when addressing several points from one poster like Headrocks post here. Also use the preview button to see how it will look once you are done.
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Master Sergeant
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