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Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264562]

Fri, 08 October 2010 23:50

Saibot

Messages:198
Registered:September 2009

Because early in the game you get an mp5 that uses the ever available 9x19, instead of the 10mm one that becomes useless by the time Drassen gets counterattacked.

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Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264564]

Fri, 08 October 2010 23:55

DepressivesBrot

Messages:3658
Registered:July 2009

That's an, uhm, interesting reasoning.
Well, most more experienced players use lower MRK values anyway because it rises fast while you're just playing and frees up points for harder to train stats.

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Captain

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264730]

Tue, 12 October 2010 01:16

usrbid

Messages:1506
Registered:December 2008

Hi Saibot, You mean to say that a lower MRK IMP gives a different weapon which can be used longer in the game? Well, I suppose that is somewhat up to the player's preference.

I read some people (incl. myself) like to hire Scope to get the bolt action sniper rifle early in the game, however ammo may not be available until later.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264733]

Tue, 12 October 2010 02:43

Saibot

Messages:198
Registered:September 2009

Not necessarily used longer, just more often earlier. I think the 10mm one is actually a little better stats-wise, just that with training militia and Drassen counterattack, there's not much oppurtunity to stock ammo for it, whereas 9x19 clips drop every time you clear a zone.

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Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264783]

Wed, 13 October 2010 16:09

jpg

Messages:44
Registered:January 2009
Location: north of Paris, France

The problem with 10mm MP is you don't find ammo for it (well, I didn't) until long after the fall of Drassen. So it may be worth considering setting a lower MRK for your IMP and getting another weapon whose ammo will be more plentiful (9 mm hopefully).
But I fear the alternate to be only a pistol, not a 9mm MP5. Therefore I prefer keeping my IMP at 80 MRK, getting the 10mm MP whose range is quite helpfull on the road to Drassen and use an alternate weapon when range is not an issue to save 10 mm rounds.

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Corporal

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264790]

Wed, 13 October 2010 17:09

Buns

Messages:655
Registered:September 2010

The MP5/10A3 indeed is a strange choice for a high MRK IMP. May be he should get a weapon depending on his traits: Each IMP starts with a 9mm pistol, regardless of his MRK.

In case the IMP has the skill Autoweapons he gets a (not to exotical) SMG additionally such as an Uzi - and not a belt of 5.56mm tracer, what am I supposed to do with that?

In case he has the skill Rooftop Sniping he gets a rifle, such as a SL8, Mini-14 or SKS additionally.

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First Sergeant

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264792]

Wed, 13 October 2010 17:42

Luppolo

Messages:150
Registered:July 2009

i always put my imp at mrk 79 so he gets mp5 (9mm)

in iov high mrk gets a 9mm sniper

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Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264800]

Wed, 13 October 2010 22:23

Saibot

Messages:198
Registered:September 2009

Buns

The MP5/10A3 indeed is a strange choice for a high MRK IMP. May be he should get a weapon depending on his traits: Each IMP starts with a 9mm pistol, regardless of his MRK.

In case the IMP has the skill Autoweapons he gets a (not to exotical) SMG additionally such as an Uzi - and not a belt of 5.56mm tracer, what am I supposed to do with that?

In case he has the skill Rooftop Sniping he gets a rifle, such as a SL8, Mini-14 or SKS additionally.

I especially love lugging 1 or 2 loose mortars around with a HW IMP. Maybe they should get one of the standalone grenade launchers, but only 1 or 2 rounds. A boost for Drassen counterattack defense, but not a full load to imbalance the early game.

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Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264801]

Wed, 13 October 2010 22:43

DepressivesBrot

Messages:3658
Registered:July 2009

Smeagol did a great job in this regard in AIM, having a Scout for the sniper instead of a scope you won't be using for ages, but only 30 rds of 7.62Nato, some cheap AR for the auto weapons merc or an M79 for the heavy weapons guy.
The latter was balanced by just providing less lethal grenades (smoke, tear gas or stun) for it.

But yeah, depending on the drop tables, the 10mm calibers (10mm Auto and .40S&W) seem to be harder to come by than 5.7x28mm or even 4.7 caseless.

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Captain

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264807]

Thu, 14 October 2010 04:45

Saibot

Messages:198
Registered:September 2009

What uses .40, the pistol Buns starts with?

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Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264819]

Thu, 14 October 2010 10:48

DepressivesBrot

Messages:3658
Registered:July 2009

Buns' USP(?) for instance, some other pistols (SIGs, FNs, some others) as well and the MP5/40A3, the only really useful gun among all these pistols. Dunno if the Beretta Cx4 Storm is in basic 1.13, it's not in Dieters excel file, but that one is some revisions behind.

In AIM, my IMPs tended to come with MP5/40A3s and Grace had a Cx4, after the initial battle, I would keep maximum of one or two out of the 4 .40s because it's hard to supply an SMG with only one pistol per battle maybe having that caliber. But good weapons otherwise.

10mm Auto is even worse, before a recent AIMNAS update, it was used by the MP5/10A3, the Colt Delta Elite and a Kimber Eclipse Pro which I never saw, now try to loot ammo for that one.

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Captain

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264828]

Thu, 14 October 2010 14:48

Buns

Messages:655
Registered:September 2010

Saibot

What uses .40, the pistol Buns starts with?

Beretta 96FS Brigadier
CZ-75B
FN Browning HP-35
MP-445 Varjag
SIG P226R .40
Springfield XD
SIG P226 SAS .40
HK USP
SIG Pro
HK MP5/40A3

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First Sergeant

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264829]

Thu, 14 October 2010 14:58

Will Gates

Messages:1012
Registered:September 2006
Location: Far far away.

"Well, most more experienced players use lower MRK values anyway because it rises fast while you're just playing and frees up points for harder to train stats." from Depr-Brot... to which I add absolutely. First few times I played I had it whacked up to 85 koz I was scared of failure; now I never set it higher than 60 and have started it as low as 45. Those precious points all end up somewhere more useful for the long term. After 30 days of fighting it's up in the high 90's almost regardless of how low you start. & like you've clocked you get a more useful gun for the early days.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264830]

Thu, 14 October 2010 14:59

Luppolo

Messages:150
Registered:July 2009

this gonna change a lot with NCTH

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Staff Sergeant

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264835]

Thu, 14 October 2010 15:22

Will Gates

Messages:1012
Registered:September 2006
Location: Far far away.

Expand NCTH please.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264836]

Thu, 14 October 2010 15:24

Logisteric

Messages:3199
Registered:December 2008
Location: B

'new change to hit' something headrock (temporarely awol) is working on

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Captain

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #264837]

Thu, 14 October 2010 15:29

Buns

Messages:655
Registered:September 2010

Unless St.Quicksavius is graciously guarding you, I would suggest a starting value of 60 in MRK. This leaves room for improvement, but is not completely out of question. A merc who constantly misses full aimed shots at 5 tiles (like Vince and Shank) is more a danger for himself and his team than for the enemy.

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First Sergeant

Re: Lower MRK IMP actually better?[message #265210]

Wed, 20 October 2010 14:46

FelixDrake

Messages:33
Registered:September 2008

St. Quicksavius is locked in a mortal battle with the evil demon lord, SryIronManzebub.

This is why I go for 1)psycho and 2)at least 75 mrks.

If you tank your leadership, and zero some secondaries, you can get your physicals roofed anyway, and let's face it, you can lay your hands on enough explosives and mechanical skill that you don't need your IMP doing all of it.

10mm smg is awful. It's stats are slightly better, but it can not take a retracting stock, so turns out about the same (9mm usually comes with one already on it).

I highly advise under 80 mrks. It's win/win

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